His followers ... eh,
BONUS TRACK: On the bright side, if we're interested in genocidal lunatics, we know where to find them.
It's hard to believe that anyone could make Stephen Taylor look like the voice of reason.
OK, HERE'S THE DEAL: You'll notice that, where there used to be a link up there under "not so much", there is no link anymore. And that's because of a new policy of mine.
I will no longer link to (or I will remove links to) any blog posts where one Patrick "Twatsy" Ross has commenting privileges, for the simple reason that Twatsy shows up to comment for the sole purpose of leaving links back to his site to pimp his crap and boost his blog stats.
If he wants more visitors, he's welcome to do that by publishing stuff that isn't execrable, eliminationist crap. But it's tiring to see Twatsy suddenly pop up in someone's comments section, only to say something stupid before linking back to himself.
So there you go, Balby and Stageleft. As long as Twatsy gets to comment over at your abode, you get no more links from me. I have no interest in pimping his creepy, racist rubbish.
Movin' on ...
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Lulu says all that there is to say:
Shorter SUZANNE: Violence is acceptable as long as it’s perpetrated by people I agree with.
Jeez, that's too bad. But we don't edit or censor, as a point of principle. So we'll just have to struggle through without your links somehow.
And that is entirely your choice.
I do have to confess I'm a little confused, though.
You're not longer going to link to our site because we allow Patrick to comment there.
Meanwhile, your current posts provide direct links to Sandy Crux, Stephen Taylor, Blue Like You, Dodo Nunes, Canadian Conservatives.com,
Back off Government, Alberta Aardvark, and others.
I guess there's logic in there somewhere. I just can't see it.
I'll be happy to explain later, Balb. And, FYI, I just deleted another asinine comment from Twatsy which is exactly one of the reasons why I have no interest in giving him a forum, either directly or indirectly.
Cheers.
Oh Jesus H Christ CC, I spend a great evening out getting absolutely shit faced with a wonderful, intelligent, thoughtful, and in no small measure beautiful woman - spend most of the day in dark (and somewhat horrible) recovery mode, and finally start feeling like I can function in the world again only to get told I should pay you a visit to read about the link spanking you're giving me because I won't ban people you don't like from commenting?
WTF man, are we back in high school again?
Have Lulu and PSA got the quiet email from you telling them they can't visit at stageleft's house anymore because he lets that nasty Patric Ross boy visit there to sometimes?
You go ahead and do what ever you think you gotta do in your little war CC just do me the favour of not dragging me into it OK? I outgrew the whole high school....
So there you go, Balby and Stageleft. As long as Twatsy gets to comment over at your abode, you get no more links from me.
- a long time ago man so you can also do me the kind favour of keeping in mind that I really don't give much of a rats ass who does, or does not, like how I run my shop, or who I allow to comment there.
If there's a link from here to my place that's cool, if there's not a link well..... }}shrug{{ I ain't gonna lose any sleep over it and I'm sure as hell not gonna make any changes to the way business happens.
Now I'm gonna go back to laying on the couch and continuing on with the blackberry messenger conversation I'm having with said wonderful, intelligent, thoughtful, and in no small measure beautiful woman, I mentioned earlier - and if you feel the urge to grow up a bit I'm sure I'll hear about it.
Wow Stageleft... a real live girl? That must be pretty exciting for you.... and bragging about how beautiful she is to boot... (watch out for the ass acne)...
Um...Cherniak? Stage has been married, and has kids, and grandkids.He's a real live grownup.
Beware of projection.
CC, I'm dying to hear your rationale for killing your links with us while you continue to link to Sandy Crux and co. Please DO elaborate.
Christ Balbulican, I'm just continuing in the same vain as Stageleft... where's your sense of humour?
CC, I'm dying to hear your rationale for killing your links with us while you continue to link to Sandy Crux and co. Please DO elaborate.
Probably because CC does not care if PR makes an ass of himself and disrupts the "discussion" at those sites. In fact it adds to the hilarity if he does and then either gets deleted there or allowed and excuses made for allowing him. I always enjoy it when hunter goes on the rampage moderating away my comments or SQ's or mystereeso's yet allows vile people like maryt get away with libel.
Whereas at your place, I think CC is actually helping you to keep PR at bay by not linking. Anyone from here that would want to read you probably goes there already, so you would not be losing traffic from the progressive crowd.
For me, the point is moot. I do not go to any blog, left right or centre that is not a blogspot url. I have yet to be identified by anyone and intend to keep it that way. I believe my countermeasures are ineffective against the owners of a domain. I know that google/blogger is very sticky about this, given some of the countries where people blog from and they absolutely will not release site logs the sole exception being they might with a court order. But I can't be bothered checking the policies of other places, or deciding if I can trust said policies.
LOL!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!
Nice to see you PR! Will my dressing down now be continued by "sparky" (blogger id 12268876306800933642)? You did such a good impersonation of sparky, you simply rule at it.
Helping someone else avoid you and your sockpuppets is not doing them a favour, it's just more bait to draw you here to be mocked. It worked yet again (yawn).
It has nothing at all to do with him being a fascist and you being his little would-be brownshirt, does it?
Poor baby. Can't you do better than that? I was hoping for a more creative insult, otherwise what's the point of dragging you out of the woodwork? Certainly not for any witty repartee, reasonable comment or well thought out insight, because you haven't ever provided any.
Yawn.
Libby, if you're going to mock someone, it helps to not be totally inept at it.
Why thank you, PR. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but that should be pretty run of the mill for an impersonator like yourself.
The answer to your hypothetical question is "No".
I also don't believe you are still beating your wife, nor do I believe you are still murdering abortion doctors.
Any other hypothetical questions you need answered?
But on the topic, I don't have a problem with CC making it harder for you and your sock puppets to annoy others. It seems to be working, since you are wasting your time here being mocked yet again.
Oh come on liberal supporter, give me credit for having at least a few functioning brain cells will you.... that's one of the lamest justifications I've heard for childish behaviour so far this year - and remember, we've got Harper and crew issuing justifications for proroguing parliament and feeling up little old ladies going through airport security setting the bar on that one don't we?
If all CC was doing was performing some unselfish and altruistic act of great humanitarian concern for and within the greater Canadian blogosphere he would have simply done it quietly instead of issuing the
So there you go, Balby and Stageleft. As long as Twatsy gets to comment over at your abode, you get no more links from me.
statement wouldn't he?
But he didn't, he decided to publicly involve me in his private little war with another blogger - a war I don't follow and don't care about.
Hopefully he didn't actually think I'd immediately run out and ban someone he doesn't happen to like, because that would add arrogance to authoritarian behaviour wouldn't it? It's something I have never yet done and can imagine very few cases where I might actually consider doing so..... our gig is to mock stupid comments and commenter's not censor or ban them.
That CC might think that issuing such an ultimatum to me (or indeed any blogger) would make a difference to how we choose to conduct ourselves at stageleft did give us a chuckle though, what did he think was gonna happen? Panic in the halls of the bunker?
"Oh no.... oh no..... what will we ever do..... the Canadian Cynic has threatened us with the withholding of treasured links .... quick .... let's ban someone in His name and see if we can regain favour!!".
Unlike balbulican I could care less why CC is linking Conservative bloggers, or whether or not he ever decides to grace us with another inbound link - I'm way more interested in seeing how far he's willing to take this foolishness, because if LuLu and PSA ain't allowed to come out play at my house anymore it's not gonna make me very happy at all..... and I can assure you, if that does happen there will be graphics involved.
I don't "care", Stage. Like I give a shit about inbound traffic??
I'm just really curious about the logic that says:
1) CC will no longer link to our site as long as blogger "a" is allowed to comment there because CC don't want to take a chance of increasing blogger "a" traffic, and,
2) CC will continue to post direct links to even stupider bloggers on his site.
What bullshit.
I have to say that I agree with Balbulican and Stageleft. If this isn't an overreaction, CC, I don't know what is.
Oh come on liberal supporter, give me credit for having at least a few functioning brain cells will you.
I did until the rest of your comment. (since you don't know me, that is teasing)
that's one of the lamest justifications I've heard for childish behaviour so far this year - and remember, we've got Harper and crew issuing justifications for proroguing parliament and feeling up little old ladies going through airport security setting the bar on that one don't we?
Despite your "I could care less" pouting, you are upset (perhaps rightfully so, I would be) and are now resorting appeals to authority. Is it because I won't visit your site (for other reasons) or because of CC's action (which I didn't say I agree with, just tried to explain to some other commenter).
If all CC was doing was performing some unselfish and altruistic act of great humanitarian concern for and within the greater Canadian blogosphere he would have simply done it quietly instead of issuing the
==So there you go, Balby and Stageleft. As long as Twatsy gets to comment over at your abode, you get no more links from me.==
statement wouldn't he?
I think this statement demonstrates why CC is sick and tired of PR. You have accepted PR's misrepresenting my words, where he claims I said CC is doing you a favour. In fact I said "I think CC is actually helping you". Perhaps I should have said "I think CC's action is actually helping you" which would make it more clear that he is not "doing you a favour" as PR would have it. My meaning was the help is inadvertent, not "doing some humanitarian act" as you so colourfully put it. But your reaction is skewed by the presence of PR here, who has managed to make the thread about himself (not surprisingly since the post was too).
But he didn't, he decided to publicly involve me in his private little war with another blogger - a war I don't follow and don't care about.
Yes, it is obvious you don't understand the context, despite the fact that PR apparently comments at your place. I wouldn't know, I never go there, but as the proprietor, I would expect you would. Maybe your site is some high traffic one in the sda category (so I am told at least) where you can reasonably claim you don't see every appearance by disruptors like PR.
Hopefully he didn't actually think I'd immediately run out and ban someone he doesn't happen to like, because that would add arrogance to authoritarian behaviour wouldn't it?
I doubt that, though I can't speak for him. Probably he wanted commenters here to know why he doesn't link you, so they wouldn't think you have some tiff going on. Looks like that didn't work, since it seems he's started one.
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It's something I have never yet done and can imagine very few cases where I might actually consider doing so..... our gig is to mock stupid comments and commenter's not censor or ban them.
It seems to be the policy here too, though I do see comments get deleted. Obviously spammers get deleted and I would be surprised if you leave all spams up to be mocked, seems kind of pointless. Now I have an ongoing campaign with "neoconservative", where he will delete every comment I make on sight. Typically he will delete the comment, then make one right after in which he actually lies about what I said. If one of his other commenters responds, he scolds them. So I try to drop a comment in, usually of a better quality than some of his cronies, and I think it proves him to be a liar to his own commenters, and also gags them from replying to me when I make more outrageous comments. It reminds me of "hunter" who visits her liberal parents and has to bite her tongue (probably there is a future will to consider). I think it's a laugh making him act like such a bonehead.
So on that principle, I don't like deleting/banning people. But we see PR endlessly trying to make a thread about himself, and seldom simply providing an opinion.
If you delete spam, then there is some threshold at which a commenter at your site would also be deleted. I doubt you can prove otherwise. That threshold may be high, or low, but it is there. If spam is over that threshold, then a threshold obviously exists. Though I may not agree, PR has crossed that threshold here for CC.
That CC might think that issuing such an ultimatum to me (or indeed any blogger) would make a difference to how we choose to conduct ourselves at stageleft did give us a chuckle though, what did he think was gonna happen? Panic in the halls of the bunker?
"Oh no.... oh no..... what will we ever do..... the Canadian Cynic has threatened us with the withholding of treasured links .... quick .... let's ban someone in His name and see if we can regain favour!!".
Nice extrapolation, I'm sure if you were a blogger site, I'd be there laughing as you disassemble the various boneheads that might show up.
But I think I can say "there you go again", since in my opinion this extrapolation is based on PR's lame characterization of CC as some fascist trying to order you about.
Unlike balbulican I could care less why CC is linking Conservative bloggers, or whether or not he ever decides to grace us with another inbound link -
Sure you are, otherwise you wouldn't be here, using your considerable rhetorical skills.
I'm way more interested in seeing how far he's willing to take this foolishness, because if LuLu and PSA ain't allowed to come out play at my house anymore it's not gonna make me very happy at all..... and I can assure you, if that does happen there will be graphics involved.
Third time lucky, you are reacting to PR's characterization yet again, demonstrating yet again why PR has crossed the threshold here for CC. Since you have now demonstrated you got the message that he won't link you, I don't see why he needs to do anything further. You also still buy PR's characterization by wondering whether he is commanding his cobloggers not to visit you. See how insidious it is?
Your biggest problem now, is that you are pwned by PR. You will have to put up with his endless drivel and self referencing nonsense and you will be sorely tempted to start deleting his nonsense, since he WILL cross your threshold as he does any place he shows up. You will be pwned because you will not be able to delete his words, lest you come here and see CC posting his dry cleaning bill because he pissed himself laughing.
All this is in good fun guys. PR is a boneheaded windbag who disrupts every place he goes. You'll see!
Hahahahahaha!
You!
And if you folks still don't understand why I refuse to provide a forum that allows Patrick Ross to promote himself, either directly or indirectly, well, feel free to fuck off.
That is all.
James Bow opines:
"I have to say that I agree with Balbulican and Stageleft. If this isn't an overreaction, CC, I don't know what is."
And good for you and your tolerance, James. Feel free to get back to me after Patrick has claimed to have tracked down your place of residence via IP addressing, threatened to post a photo of it on the Internet and threatened you with physical violence. Then we'll talk.
Until then, I'm assuming he's still welcome at your place, is that it? Pity.
CC, I'm curious about your response to what I see as a contradiction.
WE allow Patrick to comment on our site. Like we allow anyone to comment on our site. He shows up, and depending on his tone, he is either talked to, mocked, or ignored. You therefore will not link to us because we don't ban him, and never will.
You will, however, link to batshit crazy sites like Dodos, which allow Patrick, and worse, to comment freely.
Comment?
I think cc's shooting the face to spite the pimple here...
but that's just me.
cc may be trying to affect what he considers to be a good change to the 'progressive' blogosphere by trying to eliminate a rather idiotic and moronic thorn in many people's sides.
I think, in the end, it'll bite cc in the ass. It'll embitter other progressives and rational discourse will suffer as a result. Moreover, PR will go on about it ad nauseum... (though that's not a factor--PR goes on about everything ad nauseum, even when he's wrong...)
I know that rational discussion and PR never have mixed, so why is that an issue? Well, instead of discussing matters, it'll be the 'cc and pr show' anytime either one of them posts somewheres...
I will be the first to say that PR has never threatened me, nor has he (as far as I know) attempted to publish my home address or the like.
However, he has imppersonated me and posted racist comments as me-- I will not let him up off the carpet for that. WHat he does, and continues to do almost every time he enters a comment thread, does a disservice to the entire community--it's the downside of the 'free and democratic' blogosphere and is something we have to live with.
Even morons get to use a computer.
Point out his idiocies and laugh at him.
Or ignore him.
Or ban him from your very own blog.
Telling others to ban him under threat of repurcussions? Meh. Not cricket.
Well, CC, I'm actually a little closer to having a similar experience you had, here. I'm not sure if you'll remember a blogger known as Anonalogue, who took crazy to a bit of a new level by targetting a number of bloggers, including Candace at Waking up on Planet X, and singling us out for abuse. This escalated on a number of levels, to the point where he started calling up bloggers' employers and clients to try and get said bloggers fired.
The response we had to that, I think, was appropriate. Since he was doing this act anonymously, we started tracking him down, and we got close enough that we must have scared him, because he abruptly shut down his blog, cleared his archive, and hasn't been seen since.
Very quickly, Anonalogue was persona non grata on my blog, but I would never go so far as to try and control other people's blogs, and issue ultimatums to try to get the troll banned. I just ignored Anonalogue wherever he posted. Andrew from Bound by Gravity received some posts from him where Anonalogue took a few swipes at me, but I was able to ignore it, and I didn't harangue Andrew for letting the guy post -- although, to be sure, Andrew got pretty tired of Anonalogue pretty quickly, and readily agreed that the guy was batshit crazy.
Your blog, your rules. I absolutely respect that. But I hope you'll respect that we may each have different ways of dealing with trolls like this. Whether that's a total ban our blogs, or allowing them to feed themselves enough rope to hang themselves, is up to the individual, in my opinion. And, again, because it's your blog and your rules, you are absolutely within your rights to issue ultimatums to people like Stageleft and Balbublican, and refuse to link to their blogs. But I also have the right to hold to the opinion that such a reaction is an overreaction and to say so.
As for my own blog policy, all comments are moderated, full stop, unless people sign up for an account (and prove that they won't abuse said privilege). I've done this because I still have comment spam issues despite moving to Movable Type 5.01. If a troll were to try to post, his post wouldn't appear unless I decided it should appear, and it would be up to me whether I should just block his post and ignore him, or post his post, reply and knock down his or her fallacies one by one.
For this reason, I think, my blog has remained mostly troll free.
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