Monday, March 31, 2008

Welcome to "Hey, watch your &%$@^@#$ mouth" Day.


[Post-dated to remain up here all day, Monday, March 31.]

... during which we of the Canadian Progress-o-sphere will act all sissy and be polite and not use bad words that give people a case of the pearl-clutching vapours, in exchange for which we are challenging members of the Canadian Right-o-sphere to not, well, lie pathologically. And stuff like that there.

Normally, I'd suggest that we're all pretty sure how this is going to end, but that would be rude. So I won't.

Good luck. Break a ^&#^*^%(*&^)$ leg.



Urrrghhh ... insulin ... must reach ... insulin ... THUD!

71 comments:

the rev. paperboy said...

well two posts so far and I've been polite. How are the other side doing for truthfulness?

pretty shaved ape said...

captain and tenille? that's not fair. with holding strings of invenctive... rrrrggg

Ti-Guy said...

I wonder if you'll find, throughout the course of the day, one example of a Blogging Tory or a few associated bloggers asserting something about a significant issue honestly and in good faith.

Red Tory said...
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Red Tory said...

Ti-Guy — You're shifting the goalposts a little there. I believe the deal was that BTs wouldn't be pig ignorant hypocrites "or just flat-out lying douchebags"... for a day. I don't believe it was incumbent upon them to address significant issues in "good faith" or anything of that nature.

Cheese and rice, man... What are YOU smoking?

jj said...

It's not even 7am yet and My Patience has already been tried.

This is gonna be a long day... but we can do it! Yes!!

Cameron Campbell said...

jj, I would very much like to say something to you about putting the Bob the Builder song in my head....

but honestly that would spoil the spirit of the day..

CC said...

RT:

If you check out the original challenge, you'll see that I was fairly wide-sweeping in my categorization of unacceptable behaviour from the other side.

Having said that, though, once the day is done, I don't imagine we're going to need to split any hairs, if you catch my drift.

Dana Hunter said...

My contribution's up

This is killing me...and yet the pain feels strangely good...

Ti-Guy said...

You're shifting the goalposts a little there. I believe the deal was that BTs wouldn't be pig ignorant hypocrites "or just flat-out lying douchebags"... for a day.

As Chomsky (Peace Be Upon Him) once remarked (and I paraphrase) most issues are easily understood once the irrationality is cleared away.

Although the tone and the overall defamation and vilification on the part the rightist have of course, been the dominant issue, the root problem lies in what I outlined above.

On a related note...I've always felt that if you don't have much to say, you should be doing something else. That's why I recommend that most Conservatives take up golfing, or gardening, or cooking, or reading, or singing, or painting...anything but writing. You'll note that the worst among them are raging and childless anti-social mediocrities who really do have too much time on their hands and who probably drink too much or not enough.

Balbulican said...

Point of clarification. What's our position on politeness SO extravagant that it's satirical intent is unmistakable? It's a form of mockery I'm particularly partial to, but I'm not sure it fits with the spirit of the day. Guidance, please?

LuLu said...

Balby:

Have you checked out the Tea Party thread below? I think that might answer your question.

Ti-Guy said...

It's a form of mockery I'm particularly partial to, but I'm not sure it fits with the spirit of the day. Guidance, please?

Those who can should do. Since I'm the least original person I know, I don't generally try too hard.

Balbulican said...

I render thanks for guidance so rich in wisdom, deep in insight, resonant with...wait a second. Do I have to be polite to you fuckers too?

Mike The Greek said...

Sorry... you guys lost. PSA posted the first obscene comment 28 minutes after this post. It's been since removed.

I thought you never lied, CC?

LuLu said...

YESSSSSSS!!! No swearing!

Balbulican said...

Sorry, that was typo. I meant "beloved comrades". Damn ergonomic keyboard.

CC said...

mike the greek:

I'm sorry, I haven't been paying attention. Care to be a little more informative?

Mike The Greek said...

CC,

Nice try... You people couldn't hold on for a full 30 minutes. Check your log...

And personally, you've proven yourself as a liar. Care to send me my reward money? I think it was $750, was it not?

LuLu said...

Nice try, Mike - I realize the concept of proof might be a little foreign to you, but a link to either Google cache or a screen cap of the supposedly deleted comment would work.

Now put your money where your mouth is, please. Trolling's not gonna cut it.

CC said...

Um ... "mike the greek" is confused on so many levels, it's not clear where to start.

First, I don't typically pay a lot of attention to comments as they come in, so if someone (even one of my co-bloggers) commented, then quickly erased it, I might very well not even notice it.

And if that's what happened, I'm not sure where I would go to see Blogger's comments "log" for the historical record -- if you want to fill me in, Mike, I'd be ever so grateful.

Moving on, if Mike wants to look at the original challenge, he'll notice that, technically, it didn't involve not being simply "obscene" -- it involved not bring rude or vulgar to whingers. So, again technically, if I wanted to write something like, "Hey, Balby, how's it going, you old m***erf***er?", that's perfectly legit. It might be pushing the bounds of decorum, but it doesn't violate the letter of the challenge since I'm not being rude to a conservative.

Next, even if my co-blogger PSA did break the rules (for which you have provided no evidence and forgive me if I don't take your word for it), it wouldn't make me a "liar" -- all it would allow you to conclude is that we failed the challenge, nothing more.

And where you get this $750 prize from is utterly beyond me.

So, Mike, feel free to enlighten me on any or all of the above points. Take your time. Post a screen capture or something. We're all waiting. And, to save everyone's time, how about not redefining the terms of my challenge?

There's a good boy.

pretty shaved ape said...

Consider me offended and aggrieved by the false accusation. mike the greek, as I posted up front, your accusation is a lie. You owe me an apology. I have and shall continue to comport myself in a civil manner throughout the day but come the morrow, I will be far less reserved.

Apology. Now!

LuLu said...

And if you're going to play that way ... well, I could declare us the winner based on this post from Better-than-Ezra at 12:00am (money quote in bold):

The commission states that the HRC's official website received, on average, 22,717 visits a month. In three days, my single blog entry about an Alberta HRC staffer named Arman Chak clocked more readers than that. A few of my posts about the HRC have exceeded that traffic in a single day.

I don't note this just to boast; I note this as part of my theme of "denormalization".


Of coourse he's boasting - he's typing. So one could, in good conscience, call that an untruth, a falsity ... dare I say, a lie? Try again, dear.

Ti-Guy said...

I think we overlooked the general illiteracy of the average Conservative and their tendency to invent reality, which of course, goes to the heart of bad faith.

It didn't take long to assert itself, though, eh?

Balbulican said...

""Hey, Balby, how's it going, you old m***erf***er?".

I am deeply aggrieved and offended. Fifty five isn't really "old".

LuLu said...

My goodness, wherever did Mike the Greek go in such a hurry? Such rudeness - to lie and dash like that.

liberal supporter said...
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liberal supporter said...

Greetings and Felicitations! Is everyone having a nice day?

I believe I can address the "mike the greek" confusion, due to familiarity gained within my new vocation.

Recall that in an earlier thread, I announced my new career as a fortune teller. My first public prediction that came true involved Mr. PR's reaction to being soundly thrashed again by Mr. CC. To my chagrin, Mr. PR has not provided a simple statement attesting to the fact that he does not know me and we did not collude in making my prediction come true. Note that he was not required to agree with my premise or any of my views, simply state that we don't know each other. That specific bit of nuance of course, sailed on over his head into the next province, so he has yet to give me this simple statement my new career needs.


Now on to Mr. "mike the greek". I believe he may be attempting to start a similar career to mine, but instead of making predictions like an honest charlatan, he intends to employ time travel. Talk about moving the goal posts!

Note the time on this post. 11:59pm March 31. Mr. "mike the greek says:
PSA posted the first obscene comment 28 minutes after this post.
I believe that is likely to be true. Within half an hour after midnight tonight, I expect Mr. PSA, among others, will indeed swear on this blog. However, since it will be after today's "day of appeasement", it will not constitute breaking any arrangement.

It's been since removed.
Mr. mike the greek has not yet mastered the intricacies of time travel. When moving through time warp back to the present, you will indeed see things apparently "removed" as the time antedates when they existed.

I suspect Mr. mike the greek will show a screen shot of said swearing sometime after 00:28 on April 1. Similar to the Ms. Catherine strategy of claiming victory in Earth Hour only after the fact, without having established the criteria for "victory" before the fact, Mr. mike the greek will follow that fine hollowed tradition.

pretty shaved ape said...

um... thank you liberal supporter for, er, clearing that up.

Mike The Greek said...

Haven't left Lulu, went for lunch... CC and PSA know the truth.

Unfortunately, I didn't take a screenshot. Oh well... I do recall the post was up at 7:28AM by PSA...

In any respect, if either one of these were true as to the value of thier characters, they would admit they lied.

As for the google cache, I'm sure you've been here CC

http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/topic.py?topic=8459

I'm not expecting truth frim anyone who posts to this blog.

Why start now?

LuLu said...

And now the story changes ... your first comment says:
Sorry... you guys lost. PSA posted the first obscene comment 28 minutes after this post. It's been since removed.

I thought you never lied, CC?


Which would mean that the comment would be date stamped as 12:28am but now you're saying that it was at 7:28am exactly.

You should really try to get your stories straight. Or you could always delete your first comment ...

CC said...

Hmmmm ... so the original accusation was that PSA posted an obscene "comment." But now, the claim is that it was a "post" of PSA's.

Really, Mike, you do have to try to keep your lies mutually consistent. They work better that way.

Thanks for playing. Next.

pretty shaved ape said...

mike the greek, you are making an accusation against my character that is simply untrue. i neither posted anything obscene nor did i delete anything obscene or otherwise. you have formed your opinion and based it on no evidence whatsoever.

however, if there is some archive from which cc can extract anything that was deleted during the day, i insist that he set himself to the task of finding it as i will be vindicated. you owe me an apology mike the greek, your accusation is false. that you decide to believe an untruth does not change the nature of things. there is no alchemical reaction that occurs to the tune of your belief, believing does not make it so. you are mistaken in your assertions and you are peddling a lie. you decry our honesty and yet you make your accusations with not a shred of evidence. shame on you sir.

liberal supporter said...

Unfortunately, I didn't take a screenshot.
If I was going to walk in someplace and claim $750, I would bring at least a copy of my winning ticket.

Sorry mike the greek, you weren't careful enough in your (ahem) misspeaking. Had you simply claimed you saw something, your story, while fact free, would be self-consistent. But adding in the "where's my prize" part, you blew it.

Back to Catherine's school of making things up for you.

Nice try with the "how to remove from google cache" link. Did you just discover that in trying to help PR erase his sweaty fingerprints all over the place?

Pale said...

I am thinking some forensic work on the IP hits today would turn up some interesting things....
:)

pretty shaved ape said...

mike the greek spaketh thusly:

"I do recall the post was up at 7:28AM by PSA..."

yeah. too bad i wasn't up at 7:28 am. must have been my cat impersonating me online.

LuLu said...

Your cat can type, PSA? Cool.

Mike The Greek said...

I expect nothing less from you all...

CC said...

I'm guessing this is the part where Mike swaggers off, proclaiming victory. Movin' on, then ...

Mike The Greek said...

Oh and cc, it was a comment, not a post. My mistake. A comment by PSA at 7:28AM.

But you know that already...

Balbulican said...

Indeed, Mike. A typing cat is only one of the marvels that reside on this side of the great political divide.

Would you like a cucumber and cream cheese sandwich with the crusts cut off? I wrapped the coloured crinkly cellophane around the toothpick myself, you know.

LuLu said...

So glad we could live down to your expectations. Since you're unable to produce any proof of the alleged *Cough imagined Cough* obscene comment, perhaps you could quote from it?

It doesn't have to be word-for-word - a detailed précis would suffice.

Mike The Greek said...

No, CC... You're a liar, plain and simple.

You offer a reward for anyone who can catch you lying, you or PSA delete a comment on a ridiculous post (ridiculous coming from the most offensive and childish blog in Canada), and you you reneg on that too.

This is what your blog is all about. It comes as no surprise to anyone who has ever been here.

Rand said, "In the battle between the honest and the dishonest man, the dishonest will always win..."

CC, you win...

CC said...

Mike finally takes careful aim and blows a hole in his foot with:

"Oh and cc, it was a comment, not a post. My mistake. A comment by PSA at 7:28AM."

No, Mike, it wasn't. See, after I put up this post this morning, I was curious to see who'd be the first person by to leave a comment, and it turned out to be "the rev paperboy," at 7:58 AM, as you can see for yourself.

If PSA had commented, his comment would have appeared first, and I know for a fact that didn't happen since I was watching out of sheer curiosity.

So, Mike, I can now say without any fear of contradiction that you're fibbing. But it's not like we hadn't figured that out already.

Mike The Greek said...

Like I said, being the dishonest person you are CC, you win...

Back to work...

Have a great day...

CC said...

And, yes, I will be deleting any further comments from Mike, since he's become simply tedious and unfunny.

KEvron said...

a blog this prim should have a cozy....

KEvron

Balbulican said...

Golly, I must say I'm terrifically impressed by anyone who can quote Ayn Rand without bursting into giggles. THAT'S self control. Well DONE, Mike!

jj said...

"Rand said,"

*struggles to suppress outburst of laughter*

Frank Frink said...

Mmmm... a cozy. And some pastel bunting around the edges.

There, first comment today. So far, so good.

Pale said...

This is a conservative trait on all the right wing blogs, and in right wing politics.
Throw out an accusation or a statement presented as a fact, and not have anything to back it up. It always turns out to be complete ca ca. A lie oft repeated.

LuLu said...

Ayn Rand? Seriously? My goodness, you must be regular reader of that paragon of blogging courtesy Atlas Shrugs. That explains everything.

BTW, I'm still waiting for you to describe the contents of the obscene comment that no one but you saw.

Ti-Guy said...

Oh and cc, it was a comment, not a post. My mistake. A comment by PSA at 7:28AM.

Wouldn't a deleted comment still show up as "comment deleted" in the editing window and the actual blogger username show up in "post view" (or whatever it's called)?

Fiddle-sticks. I shall be awake for days now wondering...wondering...wondering...

Balbulican said...

Now, Lulu, Ayn Rand is a VERY profound writer. Her books are VERY long and have lots of words in them. They have very bad plotting and paper thin characters, but they serve the valuable social purpose of providing folks who don't much, or well, with the sense of achieving something that they think of as intellectual. And certainly anything the poor dears achieve in that area is worth tolerating, n'est ce pas?

CC said...

ti-guy asks:

"Wouldn't a deleted comment still show up as "comment deleted" in the editing window and the actual blogger username show up in "post view" (or whatever it's called)?"

Not necessarily. As the blog admin, I have the option to permanently delete a comment so there is no record of it at all. But I didn't do that so the issue is quite academic.

stageleft said...

Personally I am of two minds on this (being a Gemini that's not such an odd thing for me, but that's neither here nor there now is it?)

On the one hand we have mike the greek who has leveled a serious accusation impugning the reputation of a Canadian blogger, and on the other we have a cat that types comments while its' owner is asleep.

In truth this gripping drama has me on the edge of my seat... how will it end? Will mike the greek be exposed as a self styled master of fibbery.... and if he is will the cat type type in his defence?

Oh to be sure, I will be tuning in after midnight, I wouldn't miss the end of this tale for anything!!

Ti-Guy said...

They have very bad plotting and paper thin characters, but they serve the valuable social purpose of providing folks who don't much, or well, with the sense of achieving something that they think of as intellectual.

This is just jealous blather from an immoral parasite who never had the strength of character to go out and invent miraculous metals.

Zorpheous said...

It seems very strange that Mike the Greek can give the exact time of the alleged naughtiness of PSA, but he still is unable to detail the exact offense.

Should be interesting after midnight, but in this case I think we should just let Mike the Greek slide back into sewer from which he came.

Oh, btw, I saw Kate "The Nazis Didn't Carry Out The Holocaust" McMillan's admit that she is actually a NDP socialist, but she deleted before I could remember to get a screen shot. She also said a few very naughty words that would have made CC blush. It's true, but like Mike the Greek, I just can't prove it, so the benefit of the doubt goes to me unless Kate "The Nazis Didn't Carry Out The Holocaust" McMillan can prove that she didn't do it.

Gee, this fun making stuff up,... oh wait,... that is the whole stick of my blog anyways. Gosh Darn it all, I thought I might of had a new approach on blogging.

Anyhoo where did the tea go?

pretty shaved ape said...

rand! sweet merciful dumplings and waffle. did mike the prevaricating greek actually quote rand? he did, didn't he? oh scrumptious cerebellum full of great drafty echoes, he did quote rand. dare i say he has not only quoted the first lady of stilted prose but he has attempted to manipulate her words to cover his own magnificent FAIL.

evidently proof by repeated assertion wasn't working out, which led to an dash of appeal to authority. mike the greek contends that we are dishonest. thus, his failure to back up his claims in any way at all, should weigh in his favour since he contends that we are dishonest. yet he still has no proof, no witness, no evidence beyond his assertion that i posted an obscene comment and erased it.

the mere fact that he has been trounced at every step is, to him, proof of victory as per his randian silliness. so mike the greek, every evidence seems quite distinctly to indicate your dishonesty, why is it you still can't win? are you that great a failure? and while you're not proving your claim (nor apologizing for the falsity of it) please show us where there was ever an offer of monetary reward for this gentle contest. you cannot do it because there was none, thus you are provably lying. hence forth and to wit sirrah, you are a liar, a merchant of smear and a twittering ninny.

we did not even have to seek out an opponent sinking into dishonesty. you came barging in and lied through your teeth. congratulations, i dub thee a loser.

liberal supporter said...

At 6:32pm today, PR said he was sorry for being such a prat, but then he deleted it.

Unfortunately I did not get a screen shot.

liberal supporter said...

At 5:13 Mesopotamia West and the Halls of Macadamia BOTH made posts that they are insufferable fools and completely wrong on everything they have ever said. Then they both deleted these posts.

Unfortunately, I did not get a screen shot.

Sheena said...

I have all the dirty bits of Atlas Shrugged dog-eared.

Oh, and the Bible too.

I'd put them in the comments here, but would hate to break the theme of Thighs Wired Shut you guys have going here today.

liberal supporter said...

The phrase "Crabgrass wins the thread" is being retired, and will be henceforth replaced by "Unfortunately, I didn't take a screenshot."

liberal supporter said...

In addition to telling the future, I am also dabbling in communicating with spirits.

I just got off the board with Ayn Rand. I asked her about this "mike the greek" character.

She laughed, then shrugged.

pretty shaved ape said...

yay liberal supporter, all hale, unfortunately i didn't take a screen shot.

LuLu said...

Five Feet of Spare Some Change has decided to convert to Islam and shall henceforth be know as Five Feet of Allahu Akbar.

Most unfortunately, I did not get a screen shot.

Brian said...

Next time you post a video like that make sure you put a warning with it. You fucking owe me two hours of therapy now because those stupid muskrats are now dancing in my head.
Just think, that video would qualify for the Charles McVety tax credits as long as they can prove those muskrats aren’t cross-dressing gay rodents?

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Zorpheous said...

Oh Brian, you used a naughty word. shame shame, don't you know that every time you use a naughty word you make Kate "The Nazis Didn't Carry Out The Holocaust" McMillan cry and one of her flying monkeys looses their wings. Won't someone think of mad flying monkeys,....

Somena Woman said...

Mike not only lied about PSA's post, he also made up that quote by Rand.

The real quote is "In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win. In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Just head on over to the Ayn Rand lexicon to verify.

Which is worse? Somebody who quotes Rand or somebody who screws up their Rand quoting?

Balbulican said...

Both. They're both worse.