Saturday, August 29, 2009
I am CC, the great and powerful.
Jesus Christ, Maria ... obsess much? Apparently, it's us "Lefties" who are manipulating Sarah Palin into acting like a whiny, petulant, irresponsible spambrain. I had no idea we had that kind of power.
P.S. And Maria gushing all over Palin pimp John Ziegler? Good idea, that. What could possibly go wrong?
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any press is good press.
KEvron
I think she's having a nervous breakdown.
how does one tell?!
KEvron
"how does one tell?!"
there's an audible crackle as her lone and lonely neuron fires. then there's the tang of ozone mixed with the sickly waft of putrescence. i think she calls it "posting".
sounds like sop to me.
heh. ozone. almost got into a fight one time with a speed-nutty co-worker when he overheard me describe him to another co-worker as smelling of ozone.
KEvron
Why name your blog "Dodo Can Spell" if you are unable to correctly spell the title of your post?
because whoever's behind this charade is a passive aggressive fuckhead.
KEvron
I wasn't aware that "inspite" was a word.
"a lefty media medium" — Another mudfortunate classic.
Why are so many wingnuts so atrociously illiterate?
Dodo and Hunter are one and the same! Hunter's headline also has a huge spelling mistake...and there's only one word in the headline! HA!
so sad...
Does anyone actually know who these people are?
Do they have children? If so, has Children's Aid been contacted?
Balbulican, do you also suggest that Children's Aid be contacted when/if you become concerned about the well-being of male bloggers's offsprings?
Just asking.
No, their moms. And I assume by "male blogger offspring" you mean the stuff growing in their underwear, deBeauxOs.
Yes, deBeauxOs, constantly. I fire off a stream of concerned emails every day when I detect signs of potential mental imbalance among potentially parenting bloggers of any gender. I think they are getting quite sick of me.
(More seriously, deBeauxOs - don't be silly.)
Whoa. Sexist AND patronizing. And it's only 11:30 a.m.
Patronizing? In a tongue in cheek sort of way, I suppose - but no more patronizing that dBO's admonition.
Sexist? Bullshit.
Balbulican, do you also suggest that Children's Aid be contacted when/if you become concerned about the well-being of male bloggers's offsprings?
Well the whole meme is completely facetious, but to answer the question, concern for offspring has been expressed about Dick Evans, and very recently Don Muntean.
Then there's another kind of concern, hoping that folks such as PR will not have offspring in the first place.
Funny, I didn't find deBeauxOs question/point patronizing. Or surprising. I must be a Feminist.
Funny, I didn't find deBeauxOs question/point patronizing.
I didn't either. Just boring and predictable.
Whereas the lackadaisical chauvinism and common sexism of Balbulican, Ti-Guy and other progressives is exciting and astonishing?
deBeauxOs, that observation is pretty offensive. May I ask you to back up that accusation of sexism and chauvinism?
Whereas the lackadaisical chauvinism and common sexism of Balbulican, Ti-Guy and other progressives is exciting and astonishing?
Are you including me in that smear? Because after all, I refuted your premise with two (and a half) counter examples.
Whereas the lackadaisical chauvinism and common sexism of Balbulican, Ti-Guy and other progressives is exciting and astonishing?
I guess you missed all the times I wondered whether Calgary social services should be looking in on the family of one particularly out-of-control male blogger.
If you're not already, you're going to burn out and won't be able to recognise who's on your side and who isn't anymore. In fact, I sometimes wonder if that hasn't already happened.
By the way, it was patronising for Balbulican do say "Don't be silly." I would have said, "Fuck off with your fucking PC bullshit."
Balbulican said...
"deBeauxOs, that observation is pretty offensive. May I ask you to back up that accusation of sexism and chauvinism?
" Sure. You want that here or in a blog post?
wv = firkiddl
Enh. What one person calls PC bullshit is pretty much always just another person speaking up.
Feminists don't have sides, anyway. Just edges.
Gee, Beaux - why not just re-post the comments on this thread?
Here will be fine.
What one person calls PC bullshit is pretty much always just another person speaking up.
It depends on whether it's relevant to the topic at hand or entirely tangential and unnecessarily confrontational.
Tough guy, eh? Why aren't you more insulted that I said "your mom" and that the only offspring you have is the "stuff growing in your underwear"?
Nazi.
Why aren't you more insulted that I said "your mom" and that the only offspring you have is the "stuff growing in your underwear"?
Because I'm not thin-skinned and wrapped up tighter than a psych ward patient in my identity politics?
That *and* I'm a liberal fascist. Getting worse every day, in fact.
Hm... we can't *both* be liberal fascists getting worse every day...
Or... can we...
Do you just slap senior citizens and threaten them with euthanasia now when claim they'd hardly know they were in Canada anymore (because everyone's not white at Pearson International airport)?
This old biddy I shared an elevator with a couple of weeks ago expected me to join her (in confidence, as a fellow white person) in being startled/shocked by a muslim woman dressed from head to toe in white hijab who had just exited the elevator and was mystified when I suggested she might more dismayed by the bare midrifts and visible thongs framing "tramp stamps" she can see all around her, every day.
Cut her social security! That'll give 'er something to marvel at.
Balbulican said...
"Here will be fine."
Merci. Most of the material I consider offensive consists of comments from Ti-Guy and I would rather not contaminate our blog with those.
Gosh, it's just like having an infestation of Blogging Tories. I'm so proud. *Sniff*.
Phff. Why go to the Blogging Tories when we can just comment here on your regurgitation of the Blogging Tories.
Oh man, this IS fun, deBeauxOs!
Ladeeeeeees and Gentlemeeeeen!
In this cornerrrr, weighing One Hundred Twenty Five pounds, the Great, the Magnificent, deBeauxOs!
And in this corner, weighing Two Thousand Thirty Seven pounds, the Formidable, the Fabulous, Balbulican!
Waiting in Balbulican's corner, towel at the ready, is Ti-Guy!
Aaaand we see the referee, CC, is making his way through the adoring crowds!
Let's hear it for today's contestants!
Are you making light of feminist anger, LS?
All together now...*hissss*...
WTF? I am TOTALLY in deBeauxOs corner opposite Ti-Guy in Balbulichauvinist's corner. And to be a Feminist is to be angry. We're just faking all that "bonhomie, hale fellow well met, we're in the same boat now" crap with you guys.
Well, *I* am. deBeauxOs probably thinks you're okay.
"Merci. Most of the material I consider offensive consists of comments from Ti-Guy and I would rather not contaminate our blog with those."
Thanks, but I'm not really interested your assessment of Ti-Guy's chauvinism or sexism.
You accused me, I consider that accusation unjustified, untrue, and offensive, and I'd appreciate your explanation.
Comments in response to CC’s post did not specifically target Dodo as a female rightwing blogger until someone lumped her in with Hunter. Then Balbulican said...
“Does anyone actually know who these people are?
Do they have children? If so, has Children's Aid been contacted?”
I asked if such comments were directed to male rightwing bloggers because up until that point, the notion that the views they expressed in their blogs made them the type of parents that should be investigated was not on the horizon.
A simple ‘Yes, this point has been raised about Dickie Evans.’ would have sufficed. liberal supporter eventually said so much, after balbulican cranked up the chauvinistic and yes, sexist rhetoric.
Working poor and/or single mothers and/or women living on social assistance have a greater risk of being reported to Children’s Aid because of their life situations. A childless couple wanted to adopt my aunt (she was 3 years old) and to do so, filed a complaint that my widowed grandmother was neglecting her children.
These "crisis pregnancy centres" operate on the assumption that women who they “persuade” to not have abortions are unfit mothers and so they pressure them to abandon babies so christian families can adopt.
Thus the ‘suggestion’ that these two particular bloggers (whose opinions and lies, imho deserve to be smacked down) are IRL bad mothers seems chauvinistic and sexist to me. As was the subsequent attack on me for daring to say so.
To quote balbulican: “I think something basically and essentially human is being violated by small and vulgar minds for the sake of a cheap political point. And if that’s true, I can’t allow myself to do the same thing.
It can’t ALL be about scoring points. We have to hang on to some shred of decency in all this.”
So I am a chauvinist and a sexist because I said: "Does anyone actually know who these people are?
Do they have children? If so, has Children's Aid been contacted?"
That's correct? That's the entire basis of your assertion? I just want to be very clear here.
I think deBeauxOs is saying that, yes.
I'd like her to confirm it. Thanks.
That's the entire basis of your assertion?
No, she noticed these people are women and wanted to know if you only talk of childrens aid when it's a woman. The Evans example was sufficient as evidence explaining you are an equal opportunity basher. You only asserted such, without the example. The example provides plenty of context to explain why the children's aid meme flows so readily.
The main reason I am paying attention to this exchange is that our political opponents try all the time to derail discussion by asking questions such as deBeauxOs did initially. I don't think she was setting a trap but I know the fright wingers do. We need to get better at stopping this when it is used as a channel change attempt.
Case in point, the cries of sexism when the Palinator is criticized. We have to be prepared to quickly turn aside the sexism claim, and keep hammering away at the fact that she is a religious fundamentalist anti choice ignoramus.
Had you read my comment carefully, you would have noted that your response to my asking the original question are included in the reference to "balbulican cranked up the chauvinistic and yes, sexist rhetoric". If you need the quote, here:
Balbulican said... Yes, deBeauxOs, constantly. I fire off a stream of concerned emails every day when I detect signs of potential mental imbalance among potentially parenting bloggers of any gender. I think they are getting quite sick of me.
(More seriously, deBeauxOs - don't be silly.)
10:58 AM
sooey said...
Whoa. Sexist AND patronizing. And it's only 11:30 a.m.
11:24 AM
Balbulican said...
Patronizing? In a tongue in cheek sort of way, I suppose - but no more patronizing that dBO's admonition.
Sexist? Bullshit.
11:28 AM
Need I point out that if you had not intended the reference to an investigation by Children's Aid to be a sexist slur, then you might have said that's not what you intended.
Instead, you challenged my right to ask the question and you deny that what you said could have been misunderstood. Your words are dismissive and patronizing.
Why? Because I'm a woman and I don't count as much being in her corner as Ti-Guy does being in yours?
Seriously, dude. You and Jerry Lewis - get a room.
There are a few things happening here, liberal supporter.
1) I've jokingly questioned the reproductive fitness of Richard Evans, Canadian Sentinel, and Neo Conservative in a mock-horrified "Oh God, Don't Let Them Reproduce" tone. That's not a gender joke.
2) I'm getting the same vibe here as I get from the folks who say that criticizing Israel, or a Jew, is "anti Semitic", or that criticizing Bush's foreign policy is "anti American", or that criticizing Sarah Palin is "misogynistic". Sorry, I won't take that.
3) I am not a chauvinist, I am not a sexist, and I am not a misogynist. I think that lazy, political use of those terms in discussion weakens them, just as lazy use of the term "anti-semitic", weakens it - and in both cases, overuse is dangerous. These words mean something, they describe dangerous things.
"Instead, you challenged my right to ask the question and you deny that what you said could have been misunderstood. Your words are dismissive and patronizing."
I don't challenge your right to ask the question at all. I chose not to respond as you wish seriously because my comment was clearly facetious, because I have made the same facetious comment about idiotic bloggers of both genders in the past, and because I think an accusation like the one you leveled - one that ignores most of what I've actually said in the past - is insulting.
Let me wrap up my contribution to this thread now. I don't think anyone's real interests are served by this discussion.
DeBeauxOs, as I said, I am not a sexist, a chauvinist, or a misogynist. It's regrettable if you choose to believe otherwise, but that's your right. Thanks.
I thought you were a chauvinist way before the sexist quip about female bloggers/Children's Aid, actually.
Gawd. And Libertarians think Feminists are humourless...
But Ti-Guy's way worse if it makes you feel any better. Because he takes his stinky chauvinism and then rubs the nearest dame's face in it. Prickly arsehole.
You have deliberately blurred the distinction between being called out for writing comments that strike the person towards whom they were directed (me) as chauvinistic, sexist, dismissive and patronizing and being "accused" of being chauvinistic, etc.
Stating that I've accused you of being a sexist, a chauvinist, or a misogynist and that I believe that you are, when in fact it's your words that are at issue, is an interesting tactic.
As I mentioned earlier, you chose to crank up the tone of the exchange. I asked a question, and you responded as you did. Let others form their own opinion then.
did everyone simultaneously get their period?
KEvron
"Does anyone actually know who these people are?"
it's the way you say "pepople". i can visualize the finger quotes....
But Ti-Guy's way worse if it makes you feel any better. Because he takes his stinky chauvinism and then rubs the nearest dame's face in it. Prickly arsehole.
Don't make me call the Children's Aid on you.
KEvron said...
did everyone simultaneously get their period?
KEvron, you still have that "War is menstruation envy." bumper sticker on your car, don't you?
if i were to sport bumper stickers on my car (i do not), i'd probaly pass on that one; too gender specific for my tastes. sure, it's strong enough for a man....
this is more to my speed.
KEvron
"Don't make me call the Children's Aid on you."
Haha - too late. While I was busy becoming rich and famous on the Internet, the kids grew up!
Although... now I think about it... their foster parents would have to cough up for university...
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