Thursday, June 12, 2008

Ooopsie.


Looks like Big Daddy’s tiny, leg-humping ratfucker didn’t get the memo that yesterday was "warm and squishy so we can get lots and lots of new votes" day on Parliament Hill.

On a day when Prime Minister Stephen Harper reached out with a contrite apology for years of racist policy, one of his high-profile MPs suggested native people need to learn the value of hard work more than they need compensation dollars.

Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre, who represents the Ottawa-area riding of Nepean-Carleton, appeared on a lunch-time program on CFRA News Talk Radio in the capital Wednesday. It was just hours before Harper stood to atone on behalf of all Canadians for generations of abuse in once-mandatory native residential schools.

"Now along with this apology comes another $4 billion in compensation for those who partook in the residential schools over those years," says Poilievre, in a clip circulated by the Liberal opposition. He was apparently unaware that students were once forced to attend schools meant to assimilate them, as his boss would later rise to say in Parliament.

Yeah … ‘cause he’s a Conservative fuckwit whose head is so firmly up his ass he could kiss his own colon. Moving on.

Poilievre then questioned the wisdom of related compensation payments. "Now, you know, some of us are starting to ask: 'Are we really getting value for all of this money, and is more money really going to solve the problem?'

"My view is that we need to engender the values of hard work and independence and self reliance. That's the solution in the long run - more money will not solve it." Poilievre was not immediately available for comment.

I’ll just bet he wasn’t.

He made the remarks after suggesting that Ottawa already spends plenty on aboriginal programs.

Native leaders, however, trace grinding poverty on many reserves to the fact that federal funding has not kept pace with inflation, let alone higher than average population growth.
Anita Neville, Liberal aboriginal affairs critic, called Poilievre's comments "disgraceful" and "ignorant."

"I invite him to take a tour of many of the First Nations communities in this country and see how people are living. "The irony of something like this on the day of the apology... . And I fear it reflects an attitude or a view that is prevalent among many members of that caucus."

Poilievre also told CFRA that aboriginal chiefs have too much control.

Unlike, say, Big Daddy who would never, ever, NEVER try and control each and every aspect of the government. But it gets better — doesn’t it always where these asshats are concerned?

"That gets to the heart of the problem on these reserves where there is too much power concentrated in the hands of the leadership, and it makes you wonder where all of this money is going.

"We spend $10 billion dollars - $10 billion dollars - in annual spending this year alone now, that is an exceptional amount of money, and that is on top of all the resource revenue that goes to reserves that sit on petroleum products or sit on uranium mines, other things where companies have to pay them royalties.

"And that's on top of all that money that they earn on their own reserves. That is an incredible amount of money."

Bravo, Pierre, for peeling back that slimy, hypocritical public layer and giving the Canadian people a peek at the real Compassionate Conservatism that exists where the heart of this party should be.

Bra-fucking-vo.

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: Not to step on LuLu's turf or anything, but here's Pierre again:

"We spend $10 billion dollars - $10 billion dollars - in annual spending this year alone now, that is an exceptional amount of money, and that is on top of all the resource revenue that goes to reserves that sit on petroleum products or sit on uranium mines, other things where companies have to pay them royalties.

And, of course, there's reality (which doesn't have a dumbassitude bias):

The Ontario Mining Act, passed in 1873, is based on a free entry system, where anyone who is eighteen can get a prospector's licence and stake mineral claims on any land in Ontario.

"The law is based on the idea that the best use of land is always mining...There's no room in the act in balancing ecological values, or the First Nations values," said Chris Reid, the lawyer representing First Nations.

God, but Poilievre is an ignorant, little turd, isn't he? I see a foreign affairs posting in his future.

15 comments:

Mike said...

Pierre is my MP...trust me, he's going to be hearing about this... fucking pig...

KiaRioGrl79 said...

You too, Mike?

Aren't we the lucky ones.

Grrrrrr.... I hate that man. Can't wait to vote him out. Cannot. Wait.

Ti-Guy said...

No kidding that fucking loud-mouthed son-of-a-bitch should get an earful from his constituents.

I know *I'm* tired of calling up his riding office and leaving obscene messages. ;)

mikmik said...

Head up ass is exactly right. This is yet another example of the 'it's all about me' conciousness of these secretive, manipulative, whiner Conservatives:
"Are we really getting value for all of this money...?"

Frank Frink said...

Somewhere in Calgary Big Daddy's mentor is grinning widely.

You know, I don't think the little Ferretface's statements were anything but deliberate and PMO approved. A great big *winkie* to the base.

And yes, my Reynolds Wrap hat fits quite nicely. It's even shiny side out. Why do you ask?

Niles said...

As I listened to the apology and marveled that it was actually hitting the points with a sledgehammer of honesty, I thought, ok where's the other shoe, this will make baby Flanagan cry. And to my dejected cynicism (because I too can have moments of belief suspension), it turns out Poilly Parrot was out whistling to the dogs well in advance.

Are the usual yapping dogs going to be saying Poilly was spouting these things on his own 'merit'? I'll believe it when Harper fires his ass out of...I don't know if he /has/ any *official* governmental position. Until then, Harper /owns/ that steaming turd and can pay the fines for leaving it all over First Nations property. I would suspect that with so many psyches made vulnerable by the ceremonial apology, the shit Poilly laid is going straight to the quick. The apology becomes just another broken Treaty. I'm very interested to hear the First Founding People's reactions.

On a side note...was anyone else irritated by the constant use of "Canadians and Aboriginals" phrasing touted by many of the 'conservative' reactors to the speech? A/they couldn't seem able to say First Nations or b/accept the idea Aboriginals aren't separate from Canadians, but in fact are First Canadians, some of whom gave us all the name of the country? It just felt like FN people are still being Othered in talk like that, even while talking about reconciliation.

toujoursdan said...

I guess its a lot easier to blame the victims than address some of the problems in federal law, like the fact that you can't buy or sell property on reserves and banks won't provide loans to individuals and business for properties they can't foreclose on, for example.

rabbit said...

Toujourdan:

like the fact that you can't buy or sell property on reserves and banks won't provide loans to individuals and business for properties they can't foreclose on, for example.

In recent decades, economists have come to better understand the relationship between individual property rights and wealth creation.

What you suggest makes sense, but would be met with massive opposition from political parties on the left and entrenched interests in the reserves themselves. Some people seem tickled pink that native Canadians are forced into collectives that are a kind of perverse reflection of how they lived before Europeans arrived. Collectives are fine when they are entirely voluntary, but a guarantee of poverty and corruption when government mandated.

Beijing York said...

Poilievre is a disgrace but I think he does represent the thinking of the majority of Harper's caucus (and sadly too many Canadians as well). In that respect, I'm glad he opened his mouth but I am truly sorry that survivors and their descendants had to experience his overt racism on their day.

One of the best lines came from Duceppe, about creating a dialogue that is Nation to Nation. Even in resource negotiations, First Nations are still treated as "those people" and I'm sure the resource exploiters still use a variation of the racist term, Indian problem when they're among their own, far from the public record.

toujoursdan said...

Parties on the left may have good reason for opposition since when it has happened in the past (such as after the collapse of the Soviet Union and eastern Europe, for example) a small oligopoly got all the land and resources and the vast majority ended up in dire poverty, even worse off than before.

I wasn't suggesting that we follow that path, rather instead of blaming the victims themselves, looking at other entrenched laws and policies. Suggesting Natives are lazy is simplistic and ignorant.

rabbit said...

To say that a small oligopoly got all of the land and resources in the Soviet Union is a gross overstatement. Certainly the de-socialization of the SU could have been better done.

My point is that we have imposed upon native Canadians a system that has never worked for anybody, and yet we expect it to work for them.

liberal supporter said...

Some people seem tickled pink that native Canadians are forced into collectives that are a kind of perverse reflection of how they lived before Europeans arrived.
Hogwash.

Collectives are fine when they are entirely voluntary, but a guarantee of poverty and corruption when government mandated.
Natives do not live in "collectives". If anything it is a feudal system. They are like small countries, without enough to be viable as countries.

My point is that we have imposed upon native Canadians a system that has never worked for anybody, and yet we expect it to work for them.
Baloney. You are trying to play the tired "bad old lefties" card and apply it to every historical situation. But you are straying from the talking point, aren't you, since you forgot to mention the nazis were supposedly "leftist"?

The Indians were not put on reservations to create some sort of communist paradise, supposedly so loved by "the left". You figure the Indian Act was written with the writings of Marx in mind? Because it was around the same time? Please. Give your naked partisanship a rest.

The government considered Indians to be savages who were unable to function within the "white" society. Recall contract law, in which you couldn't enforce a contract with a minor, drunk, lunatic or Indian. The reservation system was a paternalistic attempt at protecting the Indians from the white carpet baggers and allow them to live as they always had, until they could be assimilated. Why do you think they had the residential schools? If the government was trying to create a communist paradise, why would they try to indoctrinate the children into our system?

The system was never intended as anything but a temporary solution until the Indians died out or were assimilated. It was presumed that the existing generations would continue to hunt and fish according to the supposed traditional life, while the subsequent generations would adapt to the "white" society and be able to live in it.

Unknown said...

ANITA NEVILLE, Liberal aboriginal affairs critic:

“I invite him to take a tour of many of the First Nations communities in this country and see how people are living.”

NDP MP PAT MARTIN:

“Pierre sounded like the old redneck hillbillies we used to make fun of in the old days. I think Pierre has done himself a great disservice . . . I think he’s damaged his career.”




TRANSLATIONS into Plain Old English:

ANITA NEVILLE, Liberal aboriginal affairs critic:

“Indians are living like animals in dire poverty, which means that some evil *******s are pocketing all that crazy moolah”

NDP MP PAT MARTIN:

“Pierre sounded like the old poor dumb White folks who’d get red necks ‘cos they had to work out in the field all day like ********s, that we still make fun ‘cos we’re racist and class-obsessed and hate all rural and working class White pigs.”

Unknown said...

I agree with Rabbit and Liberal that the government must immediately legislate reserves and the Indian Act out of existence

Unknown said...

Poilievre needs to be taken down for attacking our hard-working and honest Indian leaders.


WHO SPEAKS FOR CANADIANS?


Conservative MP PIERRE POILIEVRE:

“On these reserves there is too much power concentrated in the hands of the leadership, and it makes you wonder where all of this money is going.

“We spend 10 billion dollars — 10 billion dollars — in annual spending this year alone now, that is an exceptional amount of money, and that is on top of all the resource revenue that goes to reserves that sit on petroleum products or sit on uranium mines, other things where companies have to pay them royalties.

“And that’s on top of all that money that they earn on their own reserves. That is an incredible amount of money.”