Monday, August 13, 2007

There's a fine line between principle and dumbassitude.


Apparently, words can mean whatever you want them to mean (emphasis tail-waggingly added):

ARLINGTON, Texas - A megachurch canceled a memorial service for a Navy veteran 24 hours before it was to start because the deceased was gay.

Officials at the nondenominational High Point Church knew that Cecil Howard Sinclair was gay when they offered to host his service, said his sister, Kathleen Wright. But after his obituary listed his life partner as one of his survivors, she said, it was called off...

“We did decline to host the service — not based on hatred, not based on discrimination, but based on principle,” [pastor Rev. Gary] Simons told The Associated Press.

So the next time someone says "Fuck the Jews," remember -- that's not anti-Semitism, it's principle.

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Principle my ass. It is hate that drove this appalling reaction from the Rev Simons. I can assume the good rev regularly reviews the sins of the dead to decide if their family is worthy of the send off from a bunch of phoney bible thumping hypocrites? Sure. Wonder how SUZANNE feels about this. If one day we find out that a fetus is a potential gay or lesbian, I guess that would not only justify abortion of said fetus but also down the toilet and no funeral. Rev Mohler would certainly agree to flushing sinning embryos down the sewer. They certainly don't hesitate to spit on the graves of fully developed humans now do they. Just when you think these "christians" have sank the lowest they can possibly go, they don't disappoint and go even lower.

Ti-Guy said...

The next rung down the ladder of "Christian" depravity is pogroms. I'm not sure they're not thinking along those lines already.

Unknown said...

Oh HECK yeah, ti-guy! When the Dominionists (who have heavily infiltrated the U.S. government already) drool in anticipation of stoning to death 10,000 people per year for their sins, you KNOW they've got the pogroms (and the gulags, don't forget those) already planned and blueprinted.

Miss Cellania said...

Uh, a principle of discrimination? That's exactly it. Not only are they blowing off a dead man, but everyone who cared about him, too. That's not the kind of principles Jesus stood for.

Ti-Guy said...

and the gulags, don't forget those

...No no...the liberals get to set up the gulags. The conservatives get the pogroms.

Unknown said...

I see you're an equal opportunity kinda guy, ti-guy.

miss cellania, I so agree. You'll never find any right-wingnut "Christians" hanging out with publicans and sinners like Jesus did.

They much prefer their gated white-washed sepulchres in the "better" areas of town.

Niles said...

And sadly, this is why Scott Brison's wish his marriage was a non-story (at least from the same sex angle. He is a federal politician after all) is not yet to be.

I'm very glad high profile individuals like him are allowing some publicity into their private lives. We need every "reality check" story we can get to counter the fanatics on this side of the border, let along south of the medicine line.

malkie said...

The way it was reported on CFRB in Toronto was that the pastor declined, not to hold the service, but to include a presentation (video?) that emphasized the deceased's gay lifestyle.

Although I am not religious in any sense, I can understand if the pastor thought that such a presentation did not belong within the walls of 'his' church, so that, if the family insisted on including it, they would have to look for another location to do so.

Adam C said...

"Emphasized the deceased's gay lifestyle?" Was it pornographic? Or did it just include his partner?

This sounds like spin to me.

Unknown said...

malkie, I agree with your point that if it's "his" church, he should be allowed to decide what he includes in it. (Though since it's not his church, there should have been a vote by the entire congregation.)

I think the horror comes from the fact that he believes in this "principle" in the first place -- that who the dead soldier was was inherently sinful.

If there were conditions attached, the family should have been notified AHEAD of time. It was the church's responsibility to hand the family a list of things that would make their son persona non grate despite the church's offer to hold the service. ("Your son is ineligible to be honoured for his service if he was a) gay; b) a murderer; c) divorced; d) a supporter of the Liberals or the NDP or Greens; e) poor" and so on.)

The fact that the church OFFERED, without informing the family of any of these disqualifications (and without even BOTHERING to check if those disqualifications were present!) is the nasty thing.

The way it was done, instead, smacks purely of self-righteous braying. "See how PURE we are??"