Friday, February 08, 2008

Dear editors: How stupid is too stupid?


(And this one's for all the media wanks out there.)

Here we are, to tie up a few loose ends from JoJo's recent pathological dishonesty, where we ponder the original claim that there are "28 studies linking breast cancer to induced abortion," a claim which has been taken out back and beaten bloody with an axe handle, and if you haven't come to grips with that, well, you're too stupid to be hanging out here and I suggest you go back to JoJo's place. Thanks ever so much.

But this incident inspires a rather obvious question -- given that that letter was printed in the National Post, is there any letter to the editor that can be so obviously dishonest or out to lunch that a letters page editor can, in good conscience, simply say, "No, we're not going to print this, it's blatant rubbish."

In this case, it's entirely possible that the letters page editor really didn't know about the thorough refutation of Denise Mountenay's garbage and so, in the interests of fairness, he reasonably let it go through. So what should be our appropriate response?

Well, opposing letters can always be written, but they will suffer from the same limitation as all letters -- a maximum word count, in which you sometimes can't make the point as thoroughly as you'd like. Which has led me, on occasion, to write a longer piece, directly to the editor and not for publication, in which I lay out an irrefutable case on whatever topic I happen to be whinging on about.

The goal is not to get published, the goal is to educate the editor in the hopes that this sort of idiocy doesn't happen again. But if you manage to get your point across, do you now have the right to expect that that editor won't publish any more letters making the same stupid claim?

In short, once a letters page editor knows that a certain claim is garbage, will that necessarily stop him from publishing the same claim again? Or does journalistic "fairness" demand that everyone has the right to be heard, even if they're as stupid or dishonest as Denise and JoJo?

This same situation has popped up whenever the topic of biological evolution comes around, since you just know that some illiterate wingnut is going to write in, claiming that evolution violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics. It, of course, does no such thing and, by this time, you have to believe that editors must understand that. And yet, curiously, they continue to publish the same worthless claim, year after year, despite knowing its falsity.

So that's the question here -- is it an inherent part of journalistic fairness that everyone should get their say in the public forum, even when some of those people know what they're talking about while others are clearly pushing total crap? Or, put another way, when these editors are deciding what to print, does the obvious inaccuracy of information even remotely make a difference in what gets published and what doesn't?

I'm genuinely curious about this -- when it comes to letters to the editor, does the journalistic concept of "fair and balanced" involve balancing legitimate and correct information with batshit crazy dishonesty? And do those editors really give a shit that they occasionally print stuff they know is rubbish?

Thoughts?

BY THE WAY, this goes way beyond just stupid letters to the editor that have been refuted over and over, again and again, repeatedly. It's the current plague of "he said, she said" journalism, in which the MSM seems to think that "fairness" simply involves just printing what two opposing parties have to say, then moving on. Glenn Greenwald described it best:

It isn't actually that complicated. When a government official or candidate makes a factually false statement, the role of the reporter is not merely to pass it on, nor is it simply to note that "some" dispute the false statement. The role of the reporter is to state the actual facts, which means stating clearly when someone lies or otherwise makes a false statement.

It's staggering that this most elementary principle of journalism is not merely violated by so many of our establishment journalists, but is explicitly rejected by them. That's the principal reason why our political discourse is so infected with outright falsehoods. The media has largely abdicated their primary responsibility of stating basic facts.

And, as you might recall, it's exactly what you saw from Little JoJo Bullshit Artist, who summed up the whole abortion/breast cancer "controversy" by writing:

Many readers here have disputed the breast cancer studies, but no one can dispute the fact that you had complications following your abortions, and that you had years of emotional pain to contend with afterwards.

Yes, well, fuck you too, JoJo, you lying sack of pus -- those commenters didn't just "dispute" those studies, they refuted and discredited them. But you see the pattern here -- some people said this, other people disagreed ... golly, I'm so confused. In other news ...

So ... are there any actual journos out there who want to weigh in and defend why your editors keep acting like such douchebags by printing crap that they know is crap? Because, seriously, I'd like to know.

16 comments:

Ti-Guy said...

How about we first determine whether the The National Putz is a newspaper.

...The rag that wouldn't die.

thwap said...

Fair enough ti-guy. Still, it's a question that I've pondered many times, when I see something obviously stupid and wrong printed about the First Nations action in Caledonia, or about the Middle East.

Blatant false-hoods and empty opinions are presented as if they're worthy of the community's attention. As if out of all the voices in the world, these ignorant musings are the ones that we ought to pay attention to.

If I was to write in letters insisting that the world was flat, I shouldn't expect to have them published. Why that other garbage gets in is beyond me.

Ti-Guy said...

Blatant false-hoods and empty opinions are presented as if they're worthy of the community's attention.

There's been this...I know what to call it...insanity...that has become entrenched with a lot of people: that abysmally uninformed opinion represents diversity of thought and expression, and is thus, objectively positive. I just finished my daily routine with The Globe and Mail and after having steeled myself to persist through yet another column by Marcus "Wrong About Everything" Gee, frankly, the letters to the editors section in most papers is not where the problems begin.

I don't know what we can do about other than to find a way to break up the media empires.

Red Tory said...

At the risk of suggesting the obvious, why don’t you pose your question to the editor of NP’s letters page?

You would think they’d make a conscious effort to weed out the most blatant clap-trap and erroneous or misleading tripe, but that certainly has never appeared to have been the case with our local CanWest paper, The Times Colonist which routinely publishes the most astonishing rubbish in its Letters page.

Red Tory said...

And I’d agree with Ti-Guy that in light of the shabby quality of many of the op-ed pieces and columns that are written in a lot of these papers, it would be ludicrous to expect all that much intellectual rigor when it comes to vetting letters from concerned readers. That’s especially so, when, as he says, there’s a ridiculous notion prevalent in the media these days that abysmal ignorance and/or outright fraudulence simply constitute a “diversity of opinion.”

Ti-Guy said...

Except when you use the word "cunt." That's not diverse. No wait...that's too diverse. No, I'm wrong...it's anti-diverse.

How uniform and common ignorance, numbing in its conformity, can be thought of as diverse is a mystery to me. But then, look at the pundits...they're almost all interchangeable. I can't tell the difference between John Ivison, John Ibbitson, Jonathan Kay, Barbara Kay, Marcus Gee...

Red Tory said...

Speaking of letters... You might enjoy this from Bob Somerby yesterday:

After all, the New York Times still hasn’t shown any sign of noticing Dowd’s endless cracked pottery. We’re sure they must get hard-hitting letters about this, their most vacuous pundit. But this morning, they print two letters about this column—and the balance of views they present is predictable. The first of the letters trashes “the destructive pathology of the Clintons,” much as Crackpot Dowd herself did. The second letter, providing the “balance,” chides Dowd for drawing no inspiration from Clinton’s run. Then, the writer quickly says that Obama is inspiring too.

We’re sure they get letters that go to Dowd’s looniness. But they’re still ending up on the floor.


Fair and balanced, you know.

Jay said...

I've challenged my local paper on its continuous habit of going to our local Village Idiot Christofacist scum, even though I regularly point out at least one big lie a week. I was blatantly told that he is quoted so often because he is "available".

Then the next day another local wingnut el-flagrante pipes up about how liberally biased our paper is on some vacuous topic.

There is no point to this comment, because I just don't know what the fuck is wrong with these people.

Adam C said...

What is the goal of the Letters to the Editor page?

When I read the letters, it's because I want to know what people are thinking (and why); even if their thinking is deeply flawed or factually incorrect. I hope that the selection that is printed is roughly representative of the population of people that are civic-minded enough to write (in particular, if they get 100 letters on one side and two on the other, I don't want to see one of each).

But I don't want to hold it to journalistic standards. That's what the rest of the paper is supposed to be for. I don't want letters weeded out because the editor thinks they're wrong.

Does it suck having unrefuted garbage printed in the paper? I suppose. But anyone who is going to take a letter to the editor as a legitimate source of information without doing any further research is probably already convinced.

CC said...

Adam:

That's a reasonable perspective, but don't forget that the letters editor typically reserves the right to add an Editor's Note if he or she feels that something in the letter is misleading, or needs clarification or correction, so there's already a precedent for those editors to slide in some editorializing.

Under the circumstances, then, there's no reason they can't extend that kind of fact checking to rejecting letters that contain obvious howling errors, and especially if those howling errors are the same ones that show up year after year.

Jay said...

The piss poor answer I've heard for your question, CC, is that you're always welcome to submit your own letter to address the mistakes of the original letter.

Of course, the paper isn't responsible if your letter isn't put in, or if it is weeks later and everyone has forgotten the original.

It's a lame excuse that I've heard all too often.

GroovyJ said...

This question seems silly to me, because we already know the answer, or should. Editors and journalists are responsible first and foremost for putting food on the tables of their families, which requires them to stay employed. That means that they must obey the directives of the people who own the papers, because otherwise they lose their jobs. Since the media is pretty much all owned by three guys, that means that viewpoints they approve of get play, and those they disapprove of are only ever displayed in a bad light. Those who attempt to buck this trend lose their job and livelihood. It's that simple.

Just as fast food employees will empty anti-freeze down the drains after mopping the walk-in freezer, because even though it's clearly illegal to do so, they will receive no punishment for doing it, and be fired if they refuse. Hell, I know tons of people who shop at Walmart, despite knowing all the reasons they shouldn't do so. Why? Because they don't have much money, and meeting their needs and those of their kids comes first.

Capitalism frames truth, ethics, and the like as luxury goods, which you can have only if you are willing to personally bear the costs of them. Most people simply can't afford to pay those costs.

Adam C said...

CC: That's true, but it's not generally done very often. The Toronto Sun does it all the time, but they just come off as snarky (and not all that bright; but then, it is the Sun). And I suspect it may be impractical; if you provide a reference to a counter-claim for every letter you end up with more of the "he said, she said" crap, but otherwise you need an editor who is an expert on most subjects and can lay claim to the "truth". Fact-checking individual letters may be beyond the resource limits of the paper.

The Star and G&M almost never include an editor's note, even when the letter is directly attacking the paper (or editor). While it's unsatisfying, in the end I think I prefer it that way.

If I had a blog, of course, I'd be the exact opposite, responding to every single trolling comment... but that's not the best side of my personality...

Ti-Guy said...

Capitalism frames truth, ethics, and the like as luxury goods

I always thought capitalism makes those things superfluous, at least to those who end up being able to buy their way out of the sticky situations the neglect of those principles inevitably causes.

You can get away with all kinds of perfidy with cash. Truth and ethics are for little people.

Kyle Lahnakoski said...

Thanks to goovyj for explaining the decision processes that happen at a newspaper.

Research takes time and money which is contrary to the profit objective of the papers. The reader would be a fool to expect a profiteering corporation to research boring facts. Furthermore, distorting and falsifying news is completely legal (at least in the US http://www.projectcensored.org/Publications/2005/11.html) and makes more entertaining stories that increase revenue.

A profiteering paper is an entertainment device, with as much fiction as a Stephen King novel, and probably less fact.

Ti Christophe said...

I want to write an "insisting that the world was flat" and see if it gets published...just for kicks.

seriously, i was talking with a sane friend last night about the whole JoJo incident and she was aghast at the stupidity.

most people are happy in thier little delusions and wouldn't know what to do if they were proven wrong about something. uncertainty frightens stupid people.