Tuesday, October 24, 2006

"Come, Watson ... the game's afoot!"

E-mailer Shaun comes seeking assistance:

I have a request. Do you have any commenters/members etc who are really good at tracking stuff down?

That depends. If you're trying to dig up dirt on left-wing, peace activists' gynecological problems, then Steve's your man. If not, we'll see what we can do.

A bit of a spot of bother with a comment made that calls an anti-gay lobbying group well...anti-gay. I'm trying to see if a group called "concerned citizens of bc" is tied in any way with fundie groups with words in it like "focus", "family", "values", "concerned" etc etc. I don't have the internet skills needed to track down registries etc.

A quick Google shows a number of hits for "concerned citizens of bc" but no actual home page. Readers?


Anonymous said...

Well, that didn't take too long:

First reference:

B.C. Parents and Teachers For Life

Leads to:

LifeSite.net article {slightly more intelligent than WingNut Daily (WND)

Googling the name "Brian Roodnik" turns up the following:

Public Eye Online
Canadian Christianity.com
...and a second article here which points to Concerned Parents of BC website, and just for chuckles, we also find Brian's nomination campaign website in the mix.

Have I found "direct ties"? No. But looking at the verbage used it's more or less the usual claptrap about "family values" and other standard wingnut talking points. The fact that they are lobbying heavily about curriculum for an optional course that is gay friendly is a clue as to their alignment, and I did notice the "religious discrimination" argument get raised as well.

I ran a whois check on concernedparentsbc.org and turned up the following:

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Registrant Name:Concerned Parents
Registrant Organization:Concerned Parents BC
Registrant Street1:131 Main Street
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Registrant City:San Francisco
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:94133
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Note that the registrant appears to be an address in California, but so far I haven't been able to track that back to anything legitimate. (It looks vaguely bogus - does San Francisco even have a "Main St." ?

Anonymous said...

Minor update: a reverse lookup of the registrant phone number shows it as a land line in San Rafael, but no listing details are available.

Anonymous said...

Hi everyone, thanks for all your help. The info you guys gave is the same as what I found, though. I was looking more for direct links like monetary support, advice etc from groups that are openly 'same-sex marriage' or 'anti-gay'. Support would also include the professional protesters that glom onto protests that align with their own. I did find a site that linked to the story about the Vancouver protest that also linked to James Dobson's outfit but I don't think that is weighty enough. Oh well, sigh, I'm just really, really bothered by the increase in influence that the american christian whackos may be starting to assert here in Canada. I guess slander is slander and the group has the right to object to being "named" (for what they are cough cough).
Again, thanks for all your help anyway.

Anonymous said...

I think we have to recognize that the TheoCons are in many cases deliberately obfuscating their presence in a number of different fronts.

Disavowal is only meaningful when their actions are consistent with that disavowal. The fact that the only substantive references appear on religious conservative news sources is significant.

Their own website is amazingly evasive about what they actually are lobbying for and why. That lack of clarity, combined with the actions of their leadership obliges the rest of us to draw our own conclusions.

The fact that they have no office, and only a "virtual" e-mail address (in gmail) as a contact is deeply fishy as well - who's hiding what?

Anonymous said...

you know what? I think you may be right - I just have such a strong feeling that they are tied somehow into the focus on the family crew and "the men over at Concerned Women for America". I believe this Roodnick feller is alot more scary than he projects. Anyway, I'm probably fixating somewhat but won't be letting this go.

Anonymous said...


Get yourself a copy of the October, 2006 issue of "The Walrus". There's a long article in it describing the interrelationships between the TheoCons and Harper's CPoC. After you've read that, I think you'll find it's truly necessary to look behind the veil a lot with this lot.

"Concerned Parents BC" is a front for something else - too many pieces are missing.

Anonymous said...

Wow...a conspiracy theory is always entertaining. No such luck in this case. CPBC is a group of parents from BC with no funding from anyone. CPBC raises its own funds, mainly donations from members and has no paid staff...all volunteers. The web site is on rented space that happens to be hosted in the USA.

CPBC has no formal alliances with any other organization but has had discussions with a number of organizations.

The web site is www.concernedparentsBC.org and the e-mail is cpbc2006@gmail.com.

Please note that the CPBC is NOT apposed to the optional course: Social Justice 12 in fact they support the course.

The main issue of the CPBC is that parents should have equal access to curriculum review. Is that a 'wingnut' idea?