Easy CC, I wouldn't be too hard on the GG..after all, she was in there for 2 hours being bullied by Harper. Perhaps he lied to her like he has been lying to Canadians.
Perhaps he brow beater or even blackmailed her. Until she writes her memoirs, we may never know.
Who knows, maybe she had very good reasons but can't tell anyone right now.
Whatever the case, CC, I hope you have a good day. Recharge yourself. We'll figure something out, but need to reel first until we retrieve our equilibrium.
Not happy with the PM.. but, it probably will not hurt for everyone (me included) to get down off the ceiling and to be a little reflective of where to go from here.. or maybe it will just delay the inevitable.
In a dream world.. Harper issues an official appology, steps down - Jim Prentice or someone less strident steps up and immediatley proposes a new "coalition", including cabinet posts for NDP and Liberals to help move Canada forward.. and Dion and Layton graciously accept the appology and promise to extend reasonable cooperation, keeping the Cons on a short leash.
No point meeting with the coalition. GG Jean probably already made this decision on the plane coming back concluding that the coalition is a joke. That can be the only reason she made the decision this quickly. And if the coalition defeats the government on Jan 27, then she will call an election.
She will not let this coalition govern. If she had wanted to let Dion govern, she would let him govern on Monday.
..all the more reason for everyone to maybe at least try and get their shit together and actually cooperate to help the truck drivers, and the farmers, and everyone else looking for some leadership right now..
democracy is a bitch when it doesn't fall into your partisan views. hahahaha, douches. maybe some more comments peppered with fuckitude or cocksuckery will make you feel better, you snark-fucker.
On the other hand, Proroguer, I'm sure you're proud of the fact that when someone finally stood up to your hero Stephen the Corpulent and called his bluff, his response was to break into tears and run and hide behind a girl for protection.
I'm guessing that that's your idea of courage. Do I have that about right?
ok this proroguer guy is just the kinda douche that belongs in Texas or someplace similar. REAL COMMENT IS HERE: How Ironic that mickey jean gave a speach in europe the other day saying that in these times government parties must work together to overcome these difficult times. Then runs back here and apparently leaves her speach in Europe.
CC... Love this site visit everyday - please dont put down your snark bag for too long.
let me officially welcome you retards to the system of government we live under - you are all defining the over used term, dumbfuckery (right CC?).
I know you fucked up moonbats expect us con types to take responsibility and deal with consequences and shit so that you all can work the in between and mooch your way to an art-filled life listening to radio 2. rules changed I guess, you fucking donut.
we don't expect you to ever agree with or support anything any con ever does, just like we don't expect your Dad to refrain from jerking off on a hot rock and letting the sun hatch it all over again. 'speach'? ha!
What next election? We just had a coup this morning. What makes you think there will be any more of that election nonsense?
Harper's government is now illegitimate.
We are now literally being ruled by bastards.
Proroguer hopes to be in line for the guillotine operator's job. There was a six week lead time for ordering 20 units, explaining the delay until the next proroguing. "Proroguer" will sure be surprised when he discovers the Harper coup junta has no further use for him. But he can take heart that at least he will be among the first to go, and will provide some entertainment too. I understand the Ottawa guillotine will be arranged so the heads bounce off the Rideau Canal rink. They'll need to provide amusement to the unemployed destitute masses and this should be just the ticket.
Yes.. I'm a conservative, so aren't I superior today? Is that it?
I'm a Lib/Dip/Bloq, so now Michelle Jean is a stupid bitch.. it that it?
Nothing is as simple as simple people would like it to be, or pretend that it is.
The Coalition was not out to nationalize all business anymore than the Conservatives are out to outlaw public healthcare.. if we, the people who think about this shit about 1000% more than the average Canadian who doesn't even vote can't understand this..
..and stick to moronic caricatures of eachother as evil freaking trolls when we aren't on the same "team".. well, maybe we should say screw democracy becuase giving people a vote who are too stupid to use it with some thought, well, maybe they shouldn't be allowed to vote at all.
As to the topic of this thread, I'm very disappointed, but I'm not going to lay the blame at the GG's door until I know a whole helluva lot more than I do now. She was flying pretty much blind on this one, and the decision to which she came was probably a result of some pretty intense huddling with her constitutional "experts" and maybe some guesswork as to the real intent of the coalition provision.
We need to back off now for a bit and gather our strengths. We'll be going into a civil war come January 21, and we're going to need clear thinking.
Unreal. What a spineless shitweasel that woman is. My husband says that because she was appointed by the Liberals, she was scared to look partisan, and because no GG has ever refused to prorogue that she didn't have much of a choice. I say that's utter crap. He says, "Probably, but I'm trying to find some reason for it. Really hard"
*sigh*
If I weren't pregnant, I'd be ass-deep in the liquor cabinet about now. I sure wish evolution had worked harder on the placenta barrier not accepting poisons to the fetus. :)
Now, thanks to the spineless, gutless G-G, any government facing a confidence motion can just take off indefinitely. Great precedent, there, Jean, you lightweight feeb.
What dumbasses like "Proroguer" don't understand is that this can nowtyliseme happen to his folks too. We've had quite a few Lib minorities, after all.
We are effectively being ruled from Harper's basement, where even now he is cowering.
Democracy is in eclipse. This turned out, alas, to be 1905, not 1917. But we'll bring the bastard down, never fear.
nowtyliseme I thought you were just inventing new words. It goes with today's redefining of words. Like we're to call "coup" a "prorogue" now. I'm sure the Harper junta will soon repeal Section 13 and replace it with the Levant-Stein Decency Commission. After all, any criticism of Harper is simply obscene, no?
Dawg writes... "thanks to the spineless, gutless G-G, any government facing a confidence motion can just take off indefinitely"
So, what?
Seriously. There are checks and balances. The voters get to hold the PM accountable at the next election. End of story.
And, really, do you think a prorogue of indefinite length would ever be granted?
There were two decisions today. Harper's decision to request the prorogue and the G-G decision to grant it. One was reprehensible and the other was just a totally normal, expected response in our Canadian parliamentary system.
Nothing to see here. Elections have consequences, and all that.
thank your leftist god that the french forrest gump wasn't able to claw away power of this nation. and could someone please tell layton that he can take Gilles' cock out of his mouth now?
guess the day was a little too much for CC, he's hiding in the basement trying to reassure himself that he's not really attracted to harper's show of power, or otherwise.
you fucking douche, get out of your basement, and step in front of a bus and do yourself a favour.
Proroguer is the perfect example of the right wing extremists. He thinks this is pro wrestling and all he has to do is trash talk and everyone will worship his new junta.
"Brave brave Sir Stevie, Sir Stevie ran away. Bravely ran away, away. When danger reared its ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled. Yes, brave Sir Stevie turned about And gallantly, he chickened out. Bravely taking to his feet He beat a very brave retreat, Bravest of the brave, Sir Stevie."
Steve can run, but the Coalition of the Adults will take over soon enough.
well mark that day down on the fucking calendar. a proper union boy spared me the slobbering drivel of a three pager and had time to think - in the same day! i'm sure there's an awards show in the works on cbc where you can collect your prize.
majority government in six weeks, I agree with Metro.
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i share your sentiment.
Easy CC, I wouldn't be too hard on the GG..after all, she was in there for 2 hours being bullied by Harper. Perhaps he lied to her like he has been lying to Canadians.
Perhaps he brow beater or even blackmailed her. Until she writes her memoirs, we may never know.
Who knows, maybe she had very good reasons but can't tell anyone right now.
Whatever the case, CC, I hope you have a good day. Recharge yourself. We'll figure something out, but need to reel first until we retrieve our equilibrium.
Not happy with the PM.. but, it probably will not hurt for everyone (me included) to get down off the ceiling and to be a little reflective of where to go from here.. or maybe it will just delay the inevitable.
In a dream world.. Harper issues an official appology, steps down - Jim Prentice or someone less strident steps up and immediatley proposes a new "coalition", including cabinet posts for NDP and Liberals to help move Canada forward.. and Dion and Layton graciously accept the appology and promise to extend reasonable cooperation, keeping the Cons on a short leash.
Don't hold your breath.
:)
at the very fucking least, she could have met with the coalition leaders to see what alternative they had to offer.
I have no respect for that idiot Jean. What a fucking waste of money and a fucking waste of time when we have none to spare.
Two more months of election style attack ads that will accomplish fuck all.
Fuck it!
(Fuck!)
900 ft Jesus:
No point meeting with the coalition. GG Jean probably already made this decision on the plane coming back concluding that the coalition is a joke. That can be the only reason she made the decision this quickly. And if the coalition defeats the government on Jan 27, then she will call an election.
She will not let this coalition govern. If she had wanted to let Dion govern, she would let him govern on Monday.
..all the more reason for everyone to maybe at least try and get their shit together and actually cooperate to help the truck drivers, and the farmers, and everyone else looking for some leadership right now..
democracy is a bitch when it doesn't fall into your partisan views. hahahaha, douches. maybe some more comments peppered with fuckitude or cocksuckery will make you feel better, you snark-fucker.
On the other hand, Proroguer, I'm sure you're proud of the fact that when someone finally stood up to your hero Stephen the Corpulent and called his bluff, his response was to break into tears and run and hide behind a girl for protection.
I'm guessing that that's your idea of courage. Do I have that about right?
On that one I'm fully agreed with CC, Proroguer.
I thought you Con types were all "take responsibility and take the consequences like a man" and shit.
Nothing like running and hiding and not facing the music.
Harper has a date with parliament end of January. Then he will introduce a Liberal/NDP budget...or else.
Lol!
My money is on the same budget, but with the Cons ready for another election.
And, of course, Jean will allow it. She has no spine.
ok this proroguer guy is just the kinda douche that belongs in Texas or someplace similar.
REAL COMMENT IS HERE: How Ironic that mickey jean gave a speach in europe the other day saying that in these times government parties must work together to overcome these difficult times. Then runs back here and apparently leaves her speach in Europe.
CC... Love this site visit everyday - please dont put down your snark bag for too long.
let me officially welcome you retards to the system of government we live under - you are all defining the over used term, dumbfuckery (right CC?).
I know you fucked up moonbats expect us con types to take responsibility and deal with consequences and shit so that you all can work the in between and mooch your way to an art-filled life listening to radio 2. rules changed I guess, you fucking donut.
we don't expect you to ever agree with or support anything any con ever does, just like we don't expect your Dad to refrain from jerking off on a hot rock and letting the sun hatch it all over again. 'speach'? ha!
WV = cares
I think WV is God, btw. I'm going to start living my life through her command.
I'll ignore this troll.
Not you Sheena. :]}
Harper didn't win a majority against the hapless Dion the Good. Nevertheless, he couldn't resist pulling out his dink and waving it about.
Alliance electability hinged on hiding Harper's fascist tendencies, but he's now revealed for all to see what he's all about.
He'll go to the next election a severely wounded pol.
What next election? We just had a coup this morning. What makes you think there will be any more of that election nonsense?
Harper's government is now illegitimate.
We are now literally being ruled by bastards.
Proroguer hopes to be in line for the guillotine operator's job. There was a six week lead time for ordering 20 units, explaining the delay until the next proroguing. "Proroguer" will sure be surprised when he discovers the Harper coup junta has no further use for him. But he can take heart that at least he will be among the first to go, and will provide some entertainment too. I understand the Ottawa guillotine will be arranged so the heads bounce off the Rideau Canal rink. They'll need to provide amusement to the unemployed destitute masses and this should be just the ticket.
wv=zoopunt
Fuck.. no one learns.. anything.
Yes.. I'm a conservative, so aren't I superior today? Is that it?
I'm a Lib/Dip/Bloq, so now Michelle Jean is a stupid bitch.. it that it?
Nothing is as simple as simple people would like it to be, or pretend that it is.
The Coalition was not out to nationalize all business anymore than the Conservatives are out to outlaw public healthcare.. if we, the people who think about this shit about 1000% more than the average Canadian who doesn't even vote can't understand this..
..and stick to moronic caricatures of eachother as evil freaking trolls when we aren't on the same "team".. well, maybe we should say screw democracy becuase giving people a vote who are too stupid to use it with some thought, well, maybe they shouldn't be allowed to vote at all.
Jesus Christ, could you grab a fucking clue?
"democracy is a...snark-fucker."
Richard Evans has a new alias, I see.
As to the topic of this thread, I'm very disappointed, but I'm not going to lay the blame at the GG's door until I know a whole helluva lot more than I do now. She was flying pretty much blind on this one, and the decision to which she came was probably a result of some pretty intense huddling with her constitutional "experts" and maybe some guesswork as to the real intent of the coalition provision.
We need to back off now for a bit and gather our strengths. We'll be going into a civil war come January 21, and we're going to need clear thinking.
WV: pernos
Change the "s" to a "d" and I'll have a double.
this is weirding me the fuck out.
WV = partizi
Is that the name of the new CPC?
Unreal. What a spineless shitweasel that woman is. My husband says that because she was appointed by the Liberals, she was scared to look partisan, and because no GG has ever refused to prorogue that she didn't have much of a choice. I say that's utter crap. He says, "Probably, but I'm trying to find some reason for it. Really hard"
*sigh*
If I weren't pregnant, I'd be ass-deep in the liquor cabinet about now. I sure wish evolution had worked harder on the placenta barrier not accepting poisons to the fetus. :)
Now, thanks to the spineless, gutless G-G, any government facing a confidence motion can just take off indefinitely. Great precedent, there, Jean, you lightweight feeb.
What dumbasses like "Proroguer" don't understand is that this can nowtyliseme happen to his folks too. We've had quite a few Lib minorities, after all.
We are effectively being ruled from Harper's basement, where even now he is cowering.
Democracy is in eclipse. This turned out, alas, to be 1905, not 1917. But we'll bring the bastard down, never fear.
nowtyliseme
More than enough for "now." Somehow the wv got added. Go figger.
nowtyliseme
I thought you were just inventing new words. It goes with today's redefining of words. Like we're to call "coup" a "prorogue" now. I'm sure the Harper junta will soon repeal Section 13 and replace it with the Levant-Stein Decency Commission. After all, any criticism of Harper is simply obscene, no?
et tu, Dawg?
Dawg writes...
"thanks to the spineless, gutless G-G, any government facing a confidence motion can just take off indefinitely"
So, what?
Seriously. There are checks and balances. The voters get to hold the PM accountable at the next election. End of story.
And, really, do you think a prorogue of indefinite length would ever be granted?
There were two decisions today. Harper's decision to request the prorogue and the G-G decision to grant it. One was reprehensible and the other was just a totally normal, expected response in our Canadian parliamentary system.
Nothing to see here. Elections have consequences, and all that.
thank your leftist god that the french forrest gump wasn't able to claw away power of this nation. and could someone please tell layton that he can take Gilles' cock out of his mouth now?
guess the day was a little too much for CC, he's hiding in the basement trying to reassure himself that he's not really attracted to harper's show of power, or otherwise.
you fucking douche, get out of your basement, and step in front of a bus and do yourself a favour.
Proroguer is the perfect example of the right wing extremists. He thinks this is pro wrestling and all he has to do is trash talk and everyone will worship his new junta.
"Brave brave Sir Stevie, Sir Stevie ran away.
Bravely ran away, away.
When danger reared its ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Stevie turned about
And gallantly, he chickened out. Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Stevie."
Steve can run, but the Coalition of the Adults will take over soon enough.
Proroguer:
I wrote a much longer comment, but I've had time to think. It's best summed up thus:
You fool! Don't you know us leftists are godless?
Enjoy the next six weeks. The country will be under a representative government shortly thereafter.
well mark that day down on the fucking calendar. a proper union boy spared me the slobbering drivel of a three pager and had time to think - in the same day! i'm sure there's an awards show in the works on cbc where you can collect your prize.
majority government in six weeks, I agree with Metro.
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