Monday, February 25, 2008

... and the intellectual meltdown of Kathy Shaidle is finally complete.


Yes, it's happened -- poor Kathy has finally just plain dissolved under the weight of all that rancid racism:

"So it took 60 years to find the Amber Room..."

"and we’re supposed to have found WMD in the desert in, whaa?, twenny-minutes?"

Really? Is that what was "supposed" to have happened? That's funny, Kathy, since, as I recall, the same people who claimed there were WMDs were the same ones who assured us that they knew exactly where they were. Until they decided afterwards that they didn't know where they were after all.

Historical revisionism: it's not just for children anymore.

11 comments:

Ti-Guy said...

Dishonest bitch.

thwap said...

She doesn't even warrant a refutation.

What a complete fucking idiot.

The Seer said...

You're forgetting that Donald Rumsfeld had personal knowledge that Sadam Hussein had poison gas. He was the one who delivered the stuff to Sadam while Rumsfeld was working for Reagan. Rumsfeld never thought Sadam could have used all that gas in such a short time. But that was an honest mistake.

I mean, after all, who armed the Taliban?

Niles said...

I like the way she leaps to the fact it /is/ the missing amber room, when all anyone else is saying is that it's SOMETHING and possibly Nazi war loot (they hope, hope, hope). The only way she'd be able to speak with authority that it is the amber room, is if she's part of the secret Nazi underground that inherited all the maps as to where the stolen wealth of Europe was hidden in the first place.

Or she's just pants.

I'm not sure what theory I like better.

CC said...

I am forgetting nothing, seer. In the first place, most chemical and biological weapons have a life span, so very little of what Iraq had 20 years ago would even be relevant anymore.

And in the second place, chemical and biological weapons are tricky to use and have limited usefulness unless you have a reliable delivery vehicle. In short, they might have been useful against an invading army but they were in no shape to be delivered against the U.S.

However, the idiots who keep ranting on about "WMDs" insist on redefining the terms constantly, using the existence of old bio-chem weapons as "proof" of current nuclear weapons. And that's where your argument crumbles into dust.

Filcher said...

When the abuse of Abu Ghraib broke, it was not the condemnation of the gaurds that was primary, but the removal of recording devices like cameras, cellphones and the ilk. They know that their supporters have the memory of door knobs, and they only desire revisionism for them. Constantly mentioning things as they should have been is far more effective to their base than mentioning as they are. Revisionist has been replaced by outright propaganda.

"Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.”
Adolf Hitler quotes (German Chancellor, leader of the Nazi party, 1889-1945)

“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."—”
offshore George W. Bush quotes

Ti-Guy said...

like the way she leaps to the fact it /is/ the missing amber room, when all anyone else is saying is that it's SOMETHING and possibly Nazi war loot (they hope, hope, hope).

That's where the sentiment that expressed itself in "dishonest bitch" came from. She's not that retarded that she can't know that her stupid comment was based on something not yet established as fact. And it's so cute how there's no analysis, no critical thinking...just the little innocent link to suggest sourcing and investigative rigour.

Every fucking rightwinger seems to be like this these days. They want you to believe without any kind of compelling argument, reason or evidence. The only people I know for whom this type of behaviour is second-nature are frauds.

The Seer said...

Dear CC:
1. I’m actually not up on the life spans of poison gases, but even if the gas had degraded it still would have psychological impact when deployed.

2. Poison gas not only would be useful against invading Americans, it would be useful against Shiites. One has to wonder why the Sunnis, the presumptive heirs to Sadam’s stash, have resorted to using home made bombs if they have something more dramatic in their arsenal.

3. I agree that Dear Leader and his dearest followers deliberately confused the issue of “Weapons of Mass Destruction,” implicitly arguing that the presumptive possession of poison gas constitutes proof that Sadam had nukes. To the best of my knowledge, no one outside the right-wing blogoshpere believes anyone in Iraq — except of course the Americans and the British — have nukes.

Southern Quebec said...

Wow, the first time the word 'intellectual' was used in a sentence with Kathy Shaidle.

KEvron said...

"One has to wonder why the Sunnis, the presumptive heirs to Sadam’s stash, have resorted to using home made bombs if they have something more dramatic in their arsenal."

one must further wonder why saddam, who we found hiding in a hole in the ground about twenty minutes into the invasion, didn't use these weapons himself, seeing as he lost his country for lack of their deployment.

KEvron

liberal supporter said...

According to David Kay, it wasn't just the weapons that were missing, it was the lack of an effective research and production infrastructure, documents and records, standing orders, deployments of scientists, and deployments of security that convinced him there was not a significant unconventional weapons effort and little weaponized material beyond the laboratory.

Unlike a room full of amber that had been dismantled and crated, then disappeared, hidden someplace.