Monday, December 03, 2007

Whine, whine, whine. Whine.


I may have more to say about this later but, really, can we just rename those pants-pissers the "Whine-o-sphere" and get it over with?
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3 comments:

KEvron said...

gonzales should have told them about his work on flubber....

KEvron

2:50 PM
Scotian said...

Interesting article. I found this bit cut to the core of his problem with gaining tenure in that department, especially after he went so public with ID in that book and film: "Rosenberg, who did not vote in the tenure decision but issued a separate recommendation as chairman of the department, said the tenure discussions included comments on whether Gonzalez thought intelligent design was science, which Rosenberg said he thought he did.

"Would you have somebody in a French department who said Spanish was French?" Rosenberg asked."

The thing of it is regardless of whether he teaches it or not if he is an active proponent of ID and considers it a valid science being a tenured professor of a physics and astronomy department gives him the legitimacy of that department and university. Now, seeing as ID is not properly a science because it fails to employ the scientific method as its core instead attributing the existence of a designer regardless of testability by anyone independently that is a valid concern for such hard core level scientists as physicists and astronomers. That is not making a political decision; it is protecting the core aspect of their profession, hardly an unreasonable concern for such a department.

You cannot call something a science if it does not follow the common rules about the scientific method, pure and simple, and ID does not follow those rules. It is really that simple, and protecting the reputation of real scientists and science departments in such a manner as denying tenure to someone that claims to be a scientist and yet considers ID a science is not a political decision no matter how much some want to claim it is. Especially not in the case of what appears to be a record undistinguished (not saying it's a bad one but not one with impressive qualifications/actions/fundraising skills that would provide any incentive to retain tenured despite the potential negatives/damages of having him tenured in his official vocation/field while also having his off campus activity as a ID proponent either) in his official profession at the university.

As you say CC, whiners, pure and simple in this case.

3:49 PM
Red Tory said...

When I heard whiny pants pissers I thought it was a carry-on from the previous thread.

5:54 PM

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