Thursday, December 13, 2007

Copyfight Game On. Blogging Tories, A Challenge.

Again from comments, Chris submits the following link:

Copyright For Canadians

You know what to do.

Let me hereby issue a challenge to our counterparts on the right. Please, for your own sake and for the sake of our country and our future, get involved. This is not a partisan issue. There is no right or left here. This is about our freedom of expression, fair dealing and the protection of our rights. The damage this legislation could do to education will effect your children every bit as much as ours. The chill on innovation and damage to the technology sector will reduce jobs and harm a growing Canadian industry to your detriment as well as ours. I will make you this promise, I am going to be going after Minister Prentice tooth and nail, not as a Conservative but as a politician whose agenda does not serve Canada's greater good. I will also be going after my MP, the Liberal party whip, who has yet to respond to this constituent's concerns. I will be going after Stephane Dion and the Liberal Party of Canada. I will be going after Jack Layton and the NDP. If I have a little piss left in my vinegar I'll go after the Bloc as well.

I will refrain, as best possible, from slamming Mr. Prentice for his affiliation. He is part of the government of Canada and he is working to sell Canadian rights down a river that runs south. I have fought in the past against the Liberal's corrupt bill C-60 and I fought against the lobby funded Sarmite Bulte. I will stand up against any politician of any stripe that would willingly diminish the country I love. Blogging Tories, we await your response. Join us in this. We can call each other names later.

15 comments:

ALW said...

I'm with you on this. I don't like the DMCA.

As for other Tories, well, most of them don't really read this blog anymore. I can't imagine what would have put them off.

CC said...

Gee whiz, Aaron, I had no idea that the Blogging Tories needed my guidance on which issues to tackle and what might be important to Canadians. I would have thought that they were capable of reading the papers and watching TV and figuring this stuff out all on their own.

Shocked, I am, to learn that this is not the case. I will try to be more helpful in the future, and spoon-feed them their talking points.

Lindsay Stewart said...

Okay. Speaking only for myself, I'll put aside some snark. Aaron, thanks. Given that the BTs likely do give this space a wide berth, hows about you deliver the message and the challenge. The wider the consensus we can achieve the more effective we will be in protecting our rights. I'll even go so far as to ask the boss, CC, give 'em a chance to redeem themselves. Let's not fall prey to the prophecy of foregone conclusions. If we extend some pudding, they might surprise us with some proof.

Ti-Guy said...

As for other Tories, well, most of them don't really read this blog anymore.

How do you know this, Aaron? Do you BT's e-mail each other all the time and discuss communication habits and perhaps strategies? Is that how you guys assign various trolls and pain-in-the-asses to your political adversaries? Does anyone coordinate that centrally?

I wouldn't count on the BT's addressing this, nor would I care. Most of them are too stunned to understand the issues and the smarter ones really do want a Canadian DMCA...remember...the smart ones hate Canada

ALW said...

PSA: Done and done.

Red Tory said...

Great comment by Chris. I share the same sentiment (also expressed in a previous thread).

Aaron raises a fair point and it’s one that’s unfortunately true. There are many on both sides of the aisle who simply do not read, listen or hear what “the enemy” has to say… about anything, irrespective of content.

It’s an extreme minority of people who venture into “enemy waters” and their reasons for doing so are usually rather self-serving (something I’ll freely confess to, having regularly indulged in the practice in the past); and that is simply deliberately trawling for the fodder of mockery and derision. Sometimes that can be a useful exercise because it allows you to better define your own position by distinguishing it from that of another, but in many instances it’s just mean-spirited and unproductive.

That said, there are times when we need to depart from the echo-chambers — whether they be that of our own making or one of ideological preference — and simply stand up for what’s right and take action.

CC said...

To be perfectly frank, I'm not willing to cut the BTs a lot of slack on this, for a very simple reason: When did it become our responsibility to explain to that collection of hacks what the important issues of the day are?

Sure, I like the idea of a challenge to get them involved, if they can drag themselves away from their temperature gauges and fetusfests. But, really, this issue has been front and centre in the news for some time now -- why the fuck should we have to grab them by the scruff of the neck and rub their noses in it to get their attention?

It's not like that group of whiners can't get obsessed all on their lonesome. Witness the number of posts on, say, climate change denialism, or Karlheinz Schreiber, or James Moore's laptop. It sure looks like those folks can worry a topic to death if it fits their ideological agenda, doesn't it?

So, go wild ... make the challenge and see who jumps on board. But, really, don't ask anyone to give those yahoos a break on this. They blew their credibility long ago -- now it's their turn to work to get it back. And until that happens, they still deserve to get their asses handed to them on a plate for being the whiny, ignorant pissants they are.

If they don't like being described as stupid, useless corporate cocksuckers, all they need to do is stop acting like it. Really, how much simpler can it get?

P.S. By the way, Aaron, as to your contention that those dingbats don't read this blog much, it sure seems like they know a lot about what happens here to be able to comment on it.

I'm just sayin'.

Lindsay Stewart said...

fair enough cc. so i'll say this, i'm making the challenge for purely selfish reasons. i want this law stomped flat by anyone for everyone.

"why the fuck should we have to grab them by the scruff of the neck and rub their noses in it to get their attention?"

for the same reason we have to grab the general public by the scruff of the neck and show them that the issue exists at all. if we sit about knowing that we're extra clever and don't help others ingest the clever, then we'll likely find ourselves with corporate restrictions strapped to our ogg players while our nephews get sued by sony/bmg.

i am by no means adverse to kicking the crap out of scabrous slags like kathy shitehole or kkkate but there may just be an element of the bt universe that could be brought along on this issue. if that means refraining from punching them in the throat for a while, i can survive that. i don't have to love them or their politics. for me, this issue is too big to lose to sniping.

CC said...

Also fair enough, PSA, but let's make this interesting -- how much time should we allow for this? 24 hours? 48 hours? Because this issue is, literally, a day-to-day thing, as we're starting to see.

So let's come up with a time limit, after which we can safely assume that anyone who hasn't twigged to this isn't going to, and after which I can go back to slagging them.

Is that fair? Aaron? How much time do you need here? 'Cuz I'm not leaving this open-ended, so let's have a number.

Lindsay Stewart said...

Hmm, well I'm feeling generous. I propose 48 hours. 2 days to wake up the Rip Van Winklesphere. After that, all bets are off and it's a target rich environment. And anyone that does wake up and generates a coherent thought gets a buy.

ALW said...

You can set whatever deadlines you want; I'm just putting the word out. I'm not taking responsibility for their words or lack thereof; we've been down that road ad nauseum

Red Tory said...

Don't forget they have "real jobs" there CC. ;)

Speaking of which, it seems to have come to the attention of Mr. Alexander who's again momentarily roused himself from his exhausting toil in Brampton is that Harper might be a bit of a... oh, what's that term? Oh, yeah. A control freak.

Some of his commenters seem disturbed at such heretical murmurs.

CC said...

Aaron, I never asked you to take responsibility for what the rest of the BTs do on this issue. But surely you can appreciate that, given that time here is at a premium, there's not much point in giving the BTs any credit if they finally rouse themselves from their slumber to comment on this topic a week or two down the road.

That disreputable collection of wanks certainly has no problem blitzing the blogosphere on short notice when they feel like it. So there's nothing wrong with suggesting that, after a certain period of time, we can assume that their silence speaks volumes.

Don't you think that's fair?

P.S. I'm being generous here for PSA's sake since, personally, I think we've already learned everything we need to know based on their total indifference so far. But I'm willing to give it a couple more days to see if things change.

I'm not holding my breath.

ALW said...

Not that it matters, but I also note the Liblogs are silent on the DMCA...

Lindsay Stewart said...

alw, thanks. i found one post by scott tribe on the front page and that isn't good enough. i'm not a liblog member and i'm not about to join. however i imagine some of our readership are libloggers. so. the challenge is extended. all you yammering libs, take a stand on something you can impact. let's fucking hear from you too. you can write about paris hilton after made a useful contribution.