Wednesday, April 22, 2009

If you use the phrase "free speech," I'm going to slap you.


FORESIGHT FAIL!

Miss California is now hitting the TV circuit, trying to blame "the gays" for her loss at the all-important Miss USA competition. You see, she was one of the top five finalists, and she was asked a question about gay marriage. She said she's against it. She ended up not wining. And now, she's all over TV whining about how her bigotry cost her the crown.

Understand something right now -- this is not a "free speech" issue, no matter how hard the troglodytes on the Right try to spin this.

Currently, there is much pissing and moaning about how Carrie Prejean, by dissing same-sex marriage, cost herself a shot at the Miss USA title, and how this just proves how those intolerant Lefties are all about censorship and yap yap yap.

Far from it.

Personally, I'm a huge fan of free speech, especially when it comes to allowing morons like Prejean to say the most inane, asinine, dumbass, airheaded things that pop into their microcephalic minds. I couldn't be happier when that happens so, really, this isn't about free speech, is it? Why, no, it isn't. So what's it's about, then?

It's about accountability.

While Prejean's slack-jawed, mouth-breathing defenders yammer on about her right to "free speech," what they're really pissed about is the fact that she's being held accountable for what she said.

These are the same yobs who harp on tediously about "accountability" and how "actions have consequences." And yet, when Prejean exposes her bigotry (among other things) to a national audience, these people are outraged -- outraged, I tell you -- that that bigotry might have consequences, such as crushing her Miss USA aspirations, poor baby.

This isn't about free speech. Prejean has every right to promote her ignorant homophobia, which she is apparently doing as we speak. And the rest of us have every right to make sure she pays a price for that.

Accountability. Actions have consequences. That's how it works.

26 comments:

Balbulican said...

You're not getting what "free speech" means to them.

It means "free to say whatever I like without consequences."

It means "free to promote my views without contradiction".

It means "free to lie without the humiliation of correction".

It means "free to edit, censor, or bar YOU when YOUR free speech disagrees with ME."

Didn't you know that?

sooey said...

Maybe she thought it was the right answer because that's what President Obama believes, too?

Look, Americans are idiots. Besides, what does the winner think about gay marriage? Probably the same.

Dharma Satya said...

That little blonde twit can cry and piss and moan all she likes.

She stood up in front of her entire country and showed herself to be a hateful, stupid, hypocritical bigot.

She suffers from that righttard assumption that she can prevent others from having the same rights she is guaranteed, and that's okay, because she "knows" she's "right".

I doubt she will ever have enough awareness to realize that every time she speaks out about removing or preventing rights for others, she is also fighting to have her own rights taken from her, when someone else decides they don't like something she's doing.

Southern Quebec said...

She's the next Joe the Plumber for the ReThugs...

BC WaterBoy said...

But "faith" is the least accountable thing on this planet. It's the biggest excuse for everything known to mankind. As far as Prejean goes, maybe she just didn't deserve the title, did that ever occur to her? Maybe with all the Susan Boyle hubub, it's time for someone like her to win instead.

The Doc said...

You know what? I expect a beauty queen to have a little more sympathy for the ol' homosexuals.

Who does her makeup?
Who does her hair?
Who designed her evening dress?
What about her strutting advisors?

Fact is, she's in an industry veritably thronging with homosexuality! Just what did she think would come from openly showing she doesn't value them as equals?

Still... maybe I'm wrong on this...

Niles said...

She said what she was taught people wanted to hear. She was exploited for 'safe' male viewing pleasure in the contest and now she's being exploited by the rightwing efforts behind the increasingly vitriolic advert campaigns against marriage equality. But there's no such thing as bad publicity. Her name is in lights as a 'good girl martyr' and she's loping it to the bank. The usual ironic end to this will be that someone finds out she had an abortion and/or non-purity ring sexual life in her past and her fundy backers will pop blood vessels.

Balbulican said...

Sarah Palin's running mate in 2012.

Jack said...

"Currently, there is much pissing and moaning about how Carrie Prejean, by dissing same-sex marriage, cost herself a shot at the Miss USA title, and how this just proves how those intolerant Lefties are all about censorship and fap fap fap."

There, fixed it for you.

ashley said...

I am one of those right wing cave dwellers, and for me it's not about free speech, although I love free speech too. It's about honesty. Weren't we all taught not to lie? Not to... oh what did that guy Perez say.. "dance around the question?" If somebody asks me a question and I answer honestly I do not expect to be victimized for providing my honest opinion, especially after someone ASKED ME TO GIVE IT. To many of us right wing hermits, as you call us, it's scary that this poor women is being slaughtered by the media for honestly expressing her opinion; it is like telling us we are no longer allowed to believe what we feel is right, since someone else believes we are wrong.

By the way, we do not appreciate the name calling. True conservatives are not ignorant, cave dwelling, troglodytes. We will happily debate you as intelligent people without resorting to name calling. Many of the young conservatives, including myself, have absolutely no problem with same-sex marriage, and we hold many beliefs that I am confident would surprise many of the left, who seem have us conservatives pinned onto one, bad stereotype.

Dharma Satya said...

Ashley, you don't seem to understand that Free Speech does not, and never will, mean speech without consequences.

She essentially stated that she does not think that all human beings deserve the same rights and that she ought to have legal rights that she would deny to others.

You and that stupid, vapid twat will never understand that as long as you advocate for the removal or denial of rights to one group, you advocate for the denial and removal of your own rights at the whim of others.

Honestly, if you're a "True Conservative", then conservatives are really and truly too stupid for words.

KEvron said...

"we do not appreciate the name calling."

might i suggest that you limit your scope to yourself? unless, of course, you have a mouse in your pocket....

KEvron

KEvron said...

"we hold many beliefs that I am confident would surprise many of the left"

may i refer to you then as a "silent minority"?

KEvron

KEvron said...

"Look, Americans are idiots."

and coloreds are lazy.

KEvron

Adam C said...

it's scary that this poor women is being slaughtered by the media for honestly expressing her opinion; it is like telling us we are no longer allowed to believe what we feel is right, since someone else believes we are wrongYou're "allowed" to believe whatever you like, Ashley, but you are going to be accountable for your beliefs. If you believe the world is flat, you should accept that many people will think you're foolish. If you believe blacks are stupid, many people will think you're a bigot.

Better an honest bigot than a dishonest bigot, sure. But that only gets you so far.

A person who believes the planet is only 6000 years old will never get my vote for elected office. This is not persecuting him or her for their "beliefs"; I'm voting against them because they've demonstrated their ignorance.

Ti-Guy said...

who seem have us conservatives pinned onto one, bad stereotype.

Go talk to your fellow conservatives about your bad stereotypes instead of whining at liberals who don't give a damn.

KEvron said...

"this poor women is being slaughtered by the media"

there are so many lies in that, one hardly knows where to begin. it all goes staticky as soon as you invoke "the media", though. you guys never tire of that line of crap, do you? i've heard more about this non-story from you than i have from "the media", jackass.

KEvron

liberal supporter said...

I wonder when Sarah Palin is going to claim she came second when she was in a beauty pageant because of something other than she just wasn't the prettiest at the time.

JABbering Stooge said...

By the way, we do not appreciate the name calling. True conservatives are not ignorant, cave dwelling, troglodytes.You know, Ashley, if I had a nickel for every time I or anyone else on the left had been called an amoral, hedonistic, terrorist-loving, enviro-whacko, feminazi, unpatriotic heathen by those on your side of the aisle, I'd be a millionaire by now.

Just sayin'.

KEvron said...

you left out a few, JAB, like "leftard", "moonbat", "lieberal", and many others that where clearly coined by folks on ashley's side of the aisle.

ashley, you're a fraud.

KEvron

wv = "unwarw"

Ti-Guy said...

I wonder when Sarah Palin is going to claim she came second...I thought she came first? Huh. Obviously, I wasn't paying attention to the salient issues of that campaign.

liberal supporter said...

In 1984, Palin won the Miss Wasilla Pageant. She was first runner up in Miss Alaska. The winner was a black woman.

Yes, in Sarah's own words, "Sambo beat the bitch"

Ti-Guy said...

Thank you. Like I said, I wasn't paying attention to the substantive issues. And I'm not joking here; Palin was at her most ludicrous when we were expected to take her seriously. Walking down a catwalk in bikini and high heels makes "I can see Russia from my house" look like a thesis defence.

BaBuuushKa said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6K9dS9wl7U Obama's View on gay marriage.

liberal supporter said...

"Vermont recently became the fourth state to legalize same-sex marriage. Do you think every state should follow suit?"

Her "man and a woman" response sounds like her answer is "No". So she thinks her views should be imposes on others.


Obama was asked if the "man and a woman" definition should be in the Constitution, thus preventing States from deciding on their own. His answer was "No". He then added that he would not impose his views on others. He does not oppose States legalizing gay marriage.


Prejean and Obama both have the same opinion on the definition of the word marriage. The difference is in what question they were answering. Prejean wants to impose that view on others, effectively denying rights to some. Obama does not want to impose that view on others.

You can fault Obama for not demanding gay marriage be legalized everywhere, and instead leaving it to states, but to claim he holds the same views as Prejean is ludicrous.

Ha ha. wv=trando

toujoursdan said...

Well, Obama did flip flop on gay marriage.

Obama Once Supported Same-Sex Marriage 'Unequivocally'In a 1996 articles in the Chicago gay paper: The Windy City Times, he said:

President-elect Obama's answer to a 1996 Outlines newspaper question on marriage was: "I favor legalizing same-sex marriages, and would fight efforts to prohibit such marriages.The problem in the U.S. is that it is one of those "gotcha" questions. It doesn't show whether a candidate would make a good president but whether he is "in" or "out". I don't know what led Obama to change his position, but suspect it was a matter of political expediency - perhaps to move into the centre and gain the support of Republicans and conservatives.