UPDATE, JULY 4: I checked with some legal expert acquaintances of mine who have been following this case and asked about the value of giving Patrick one more chance to deal with all of this like a grown-up and accept his responsibility and financial accountability. To a person, they advised me not to bother, and to get out of the way and let the authorities handle him by the book and through the courts. Advice taken.
Given that others have noted this on social media, I have no problem mentioning that Patrick's father, Kenneth "Ken" Ross, reportedly passed away on June 11, 2023 [correction: obituary now reads June 29]. This changes entirely the social and legal dynamic of my collection proceedings against Patrick as the evidence suggests that Ken very actively financed and enabled Patrick's concealment of his assets and salary so, with Ken no longer able to do this, it remains to be seen how Patrick is going to sustain a lifestyle as an unemployed, undischarged bankrupt, particularly since it is unclear if Patrick thinks he has the right to continue living in the Lloydminster property if the rest of the family wants to sell it as part of their inheritance.
In any event, I am now intensely interested in what Patrick is up to these days, especially related to where he is living, where he is working, and what he expects to inherit since I have the legal right to seize all of that up to the value of what he owes me (over $110,000).
Anyone who has any information related to this is invited to leave a comment, or email me at canadiancynic@yahoo.ca. All relevant information will be forwarded to the appropriate legal authorities.
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The obituary at https://mccawfuneralservice.com/tribute/details/4305/Kenneth-Ross/obituary.html says that Ken passed away on the 29th, not the 11th.
This is getting weird, as the original obituary claimed that he passed away on June 11.
Obviously the entire family shares an aversion to deadlines.
According to the public announcement, "A Celebration of Life will be held Thursday, July 6 at 2:00 PM at the Lloydminster Exhibition (WLS Convention Centre) Lloydminster, AB."
So if you need to personally serve Patrick with legal documents, you know where he'll be on July 6.
Anon 11:26: Astute observation!
The obituary with the mugshot is surely authentic.
Much as you might hate Patrick surely you can have sympathy for him as he’s lost both parents, that’s if this is true. If there is an inheritance he can use it to pay the judgement so everyone can move on with their lives.
Anon @ 8:31 PM: I would have sympathy if Patrick had showed the slightest concern about not having paid what he owed me for 13 years. If there is an inheritance and Patrick uses it to pay me what he owes me, I will happily move on. Until then, the collection enforcement will continue.
Anon @ 8:31 PM: Have you not seen how Patrick "Twatsy" Ross treats people? Especially women and liberals? Outside of his longstanding lopsided feud with Mr. Day, the guy is one of the most execrable, malicious, arrogant right-wing internet trolls on the internet.
So while in theory, someone in Twatsy's circumstances is deserving of sympathy. However, Twatsy most certainly is not.
Patrick, unfortunately, is a malignant, poisonous troll whose every interaction is intended to provoke. That's the world he's chosen to build for himself and inhabit. His choices have led to a few specific consequences; he's a pauper, bankrupt, with no hope of ever achieving a credit training. He can't hold a job, he will never have a career, he can't complete his education, and he has no significant relationships. Sympathy? Why? These are the choices he made, and continues to make.
If I were a crueller person, I'd suggest a new strategy for document service. If his dad's funeral is open casket, then pack an envelope filled with all the notices he's been ignoring; address the envelope to "My Beloved Son Patrick; then slip into the funeral parlour and place the envelope in his father's hands.
Anon @ 11:06 AM: As I have substituted service for Patrick, I have no need to have someone serve him personally, but I have provided Patrick's near-term schedule to the legal authorities who might want to serve him with legal papers. I have tried to be patient but my patience is at an end. I will do whatever it takes to intercede in the execution of the will, including preventing the sale of the Lloydminster property if it can be shown that Patrick is one of the benefactors. If this screws up the siblings receiving their share of the proceeds, that's too fucking bad.
Hasn't he been seen using his dad's credit card, if his dad had died, isn't that credit card fraud?
Anon @ 7:48 PM: There is *speculation* that Patrick has been using his father's credit card, in exchange for redirecting his direct-deposit salary to his father's bank account. (I can confirm the SK Sheriffs advised me Patrick closed his credit union account some time ago after the last seizure cleaned it out.)
I don't know how the law works, but Patrick thinking he can continue to use his late father's credit card or bank account strikes me as stunningly dangerous in all sorts of ways.
The SK Sheriffs have all of this information, and will govern themselves accordingly. In the meantime, I would appreciate someone tracking the Lloyd real estate market and letting me know the instant that property goes on the market.
From a little bit of experience I have with wills and estates:
The days of Patrick using Dad’s credit card and bank account come to an end the minute someone walks into the bank with a death certificate and starts administering the estate. Those accounts are frozen immediately, and only the executor can pull money out of them (Oh … and that only starts happening once the will is probated).
We don’t know anything about the will itself, but unless Patrick is the sole executor, he’s kind of hooped if he’s been relying on access to Dad’s bank accounts.
The odds are that even if the will isn't contested in the courts, it will be several months before it goes on the market.
The executor(s) can't do anything until probate is granted.
MgS: I trust that my lawyers have a handle on the situation, and will do all the right things, including contesting the will until Satan is seen ice-skating to work. Which means *everyone* in that family of in-bred hillbillies are going to be waiting for their share.
MgS: I'm unsure if Patrick even has his own bank account anymore as he closed his credit union account since I was constantly emptying it on him. And even if he's employed, if he redirected his salary to his father's bank account, as you say, he's kind of screwed. And I have no idea what freedom he has to open another bank account given his current status.
If Patrick redirected his salary to his father's account, can he even redirect it *away* once the bank gets the death certificate? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around just how deep a hole Patrick has dug for himself.
In principle, redirecting his paycheques should be a simple matter of providing updated banking information to his employer. Any funds currently in his father’s account would be frozen immediately - and fundamentally inaccessible until the will is probated.
*Once probated, whoever the executor is would have the legal authority to withdraw funds and turn them over to Patrick. However, in doing so, they will open up a whole other can of worms if they don’t have receipts for everything to explain the transfer of funds. (Oh - and for chuckles, my understanding is that estate accounts are “in person banking only” - no online banking, and definitely no Interac e-transfers - if you want to take money out, it’s by way of a bank draft … and bank clerks are trained not to issue bank drafts from estate accounts except for the following cases: bill payments for recognized utilities, and lawyer’s trust accounts. Anything else turns into a pain in the ass - even if you are the executor.
So … Patrick’s got some decisions to make.
Whomever the executor of Ken Ross's estate is, is in for some MASSIVE headaches.
ROD: At this point, unless someone runs across new information related to this (which they can email to me @ "canadiancynic@yahoo.ca", I have passed on everything I know to the appropriate entities (lawyer, SK sheriffs and others), and am going to let them take it from here. I may post summaries as things develop.
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