That's because "Hannity & Colmes" said so. And how did they know? Because Tim Ball said so.
Yeah. That Tim Ball.
I'm not sure what's more depressing -- that you take Tim Ball seriously, or that you take "Hannity & Colmes" seriously. Either way, there's not much reason to go on living, is there?
SOMETIMES, IT'S WAY TOO EASY. Commenter Wayne takes careful aim, and blows off his foot in the first 10 words:
Tim Ball has a PhD. in climatology.
No, he doesn't. But, by all means, don't let facts get in the way of a good rant. It's never stopped you before, has it, Wayne?
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Dear CC:
DEMOGBLOG communist hippy tripe.
Tim Ball has a PhD. in climatology. Says Global Warming is not manmade.
Y2Kyoto Suzuki PhD in zoology. Says Global Warming is manmade.
Mechanic says he can fix your truck.
School Cooking Teacher says he can fix your truck.
Mechanic says he can bake a cake.
School Cooking Teacher says he can bake a cake.
One knows what they are talking about one does not.
Tim Ball is correct people like Al Gore, Suzuki and many researchers are making big bucks out of scarring people to death.
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There are plenty of teachers that can fix cars. And mechanics that can bake cakes.
Whether Tim Ball has a PhD in stupidology or not isn't the point. I certainly believe that like David Suzuki, you can your PhD in something, and through the years gain experience in other areas to the point of becoming an "expert". All it takes is bright mind. I don't doubt Dr. Ball knows a lot about climate change. However, Dr. Ball loses ALL credibility when you consider where his paycheck is coming from and the special interests he is protecting. Who stands to benefit? Canadians? Certainly a select few, but mostly Big Oil. Can you spell c-o-n-f-l-i-c-t-o-f-i-n-t-e-r-e-s-t-?
On top of that, Dr. Ball chooses to discredit or ignore a huge number of peer reviewed papers (by ACTUAL lifelong experts in the field). So my faith in his "expertise" is thin at most. Doubt is a natural part of the scientific method, and I have no doubts that there probably ARE papers on climate change that are scientifically unsound. However, a WHOLE body of literature? Yeah, that smells like money to me.
rosie:
I could have happily eviscerated all of Wayne's jaw-dropping idiocy, but I thought it was sufficient to point out that the first claim he made -- the very first one -- was completely and utterly wrong.
Any normal human being would be embarrassed. Luckily, Wayne has no shame.
Wayne is about as stupid as they come.
Fuck off Wayne. You're a menace.
Wayne is scarring me to death. Stop it Wayne, stop scarring.
"Wayne is about as stupid as they come."
Nope, Biran Lemon and Jo-Jo are far more stupid, Wayne is maybe in the top ten.
CC says "No, he doesn't. But, by all means, don't let facts get in the way of a good rant. It's never stopped you before, has it, Wayne?"
CC and desmogblog never let the facts get in the way. The facts below.
http://www.americasnewssource.com/images/cover0207l.jpg
This is a Pic of Tim Balls PHD.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Timothy F. Ball
Academic background
Ball taught geography at the University of Winnipeg until 1996.
He has a B.A. from the University of Winnipeg, an M.A. from the University of Manitoba and a Ph.D.[2] from the University of London, England.
He has been cited [3] as the first Canadian to hold a Ph.D. in climatology. This claim has been disputed in a letter to the editor of the Calgary Herald, and is currently the subject of a lawsuit undertaken by Ball against the writer, the Herald and its publishers. (See the Lawsuit section below)
[edit] Lawsuit
In September, 2006, Ball filed suit against a professor Dan Johnson of environmental science at the University of Lethbridge, and four editors at the Calgary Herald newspaper for $325,000 for, among other things, “damages to his income earning capacity as a sought after speaker with respect to global warming”.
The left use the Big Lie well.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hitler wrote in his 1925 autobiography Mein Kampf (James Murphy translation, page 134):
All this was inspired by the principle - which is quite true in itself - that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes.
Actually, a Ph. D. in historical geography would be a study of the changing physical conditions of the earth, probably with a concentration on Europe, since that is where most of the research has been done. A degree in historical geography would tell Dr. Tim that this is not the first time in history, or even the past thousand years, that the earth, or at least Western Europe, has warmed up. Once at the beginning of the Eleventh Century, again in the middle of the Fourteenth.
Furthermore, from The Globe & Mail comes word that all those coal-fired utilities in China have saturated the clouds over Canada with soot that blocks sunlight, as well as cause massive storms in B. C. See, if these "dirty clouds" black enough sunlight, it's curtains for global warming.
And I'm not even a Ph. D.
But Wayne, Wayne Wayne!
How can Dr. Tim claim he lost $325,000 in speaking fees when his don't ask, don't tell buddies engage him to tour North America to talk about global unwarming?
Seer I hear what you are saying, but it takes away from the fact that he is truely a climate expert.
You have a tumor do you get a doctor to help you, or a faith healer?
All I want are facts. We cannot spend huge quantities of money on something that we can't do anything about.
This is not the same as the hole in the ozone layer. That was manmade and had to be stopped.
With the kind of money the left is talking about (100 Billion per Year) for Kyoto we could cure aids and cancer.
1. Please, provide some sort of link to a left-winger who thinks meeting Kyoto will cost 100 billion per year.
2. I am as much of a climate expert as Tim Ball; unless you're looking specifically at weather information from 18th century northern Manitoba. The difference is that I am neither dishonest nor deliberately misleading. He is. His MO is to spread confusion and misinformation, none of which (for obvious reasons) stands up to peer review.
3. Advice: Wikipedia is a great source of information unless the topic involves current events, politics or direct corporate interests. Then it's just a matter of who edited the article last.
"You have a tumor do you get a doctor to help you, or a faith healer?"
Or, to properly apply the metaphor, do you go to someone who studied the history of medicine (Ball) or someone who studied to be a doctor (climatologists)?
The first guy might help point me in the right direction adn tell me it's happened before, don't worry, but the second person might be able to, you know, offer explanations and treatments. Helpful things.
Thank you adam c and aweb, and .... CC.
Instead of telling me to fuck off adam c and aweb made their points.
I checked CC's links and read them ..... CC may have a point.
I will fuck off for a while and read more, on Tim Ball, Big Oil etc..
wayne:
I suspect adam and aweb were being moderately polite since they're just commenters and, thus, guests at this blog.
I, on the other hand, am free to tell you to fuck off since every visit of yours to this blog has the same pattern: you say something unspeakably stupid, whereupon you get absolutely pasted by everyone else, at which point you reluctantly admit that, well, maybe we were right all along.
It never fails, Wayne. Never. That's what happens every single time and, after a while, you'd think it would start dawning on you that you should be a lot more careful with your arrogant, dismissive claims here.
But nooooooooo. You come swaggering in here, pissing all over everything, and only much later do you finally get a clue that you were full of crap from the beginning.
That sort of behaviour gets really tiring in a hurry, so you'll understand when I suggest that you can take your insufferable ignorance elsewhere.
Bye Wayne.
But thanks for "Demoblog communist hippy tripe."
I'm going to use it as a comment when visit the wingnut blogs.
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