Wednesday, September 06, 2006

It's outrageous! OUTRAGEOUS, I tell you!

Taking compartmentalization to a whole 'nother dimension, we have Ruth:

My husband sent me this article from YNet News this afternoon.

Passengers on an Air Canada Jazz flight from Montreal to New York claim that a fellow passenger, an ultra-Orthodox man, was removed from the plane after he began praying, Canadian news site CBC reported...

Following up with the CBC, I found this article on the subject.
No freedom of religion for you, not if you live in Canada. That goes double if you're Jewish.

"He was clearly a Hasidic Jew," said Yves Faguy, a passenger seated nearby. "He had some sort of cover over his head. He was reading from a book.
"He wasn't exactly praying out loud but he was lurching back and forth," Faguy added.
The action didn't seem to bother anyone, Faguy said, but a flight attendant approached the man and told him his praying was making other passengers nervous.
"The attendant actually recognized out loud that he wasn't a Muslim and that she was sorry for the situation but they had to ask him to leave," Faguy said.

They kicked him off the plane for praying, claiming that it was making other passengers nervous. I'd love to know which passengers he was making nervous, especially since the article also says that he wasn't bothering anyone. Both can't be true folks! What kills me most is the description: "some sort of cover... a book... lurching..." You moron! That's a prayer shawl, likely a Torah and the lurching is how Orthodox Jewish people pray. Comparing him to a muslim??? Could you be any more ignorant? One wonders how that conversation even went.
"Sir, we know you aren't a Muslim, but would you mind not praying? The captain's an atheist and he's afraid God will hear you."
Yay Canada.
True north strong and...
I love the B'Nai Brith's offer of sensitivity training. I say a good old fashioned size twelve to the rear ought to do it.

And it's a damned good thing that that situation was totally, totally different from this one. Otherwise, Ruth might have had to get upset twice, in a fair and balanced way. And, as we all know, we can't have that.


Anonymous said...

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Jim said...

Provided by commenter Kathy at my blog, why this type of compartmentalization is to be expected.

Well, you are assuming that Islam and Christianity are "equal" and I don't happen to think they are. As a Christian, I don't believe Islam to be true; it is a man made religion somewhat akin to Scientology, but more heavily armed.

Mike said...

Kathy doesn't seem to understand that ALL religions are man-made.

She clearly is a fool.

Olaf said...

What I don't get about your constant charges of hypocrisy, is why ommiting to comment on something (which, could conceivably be based on the fact that one doesn't know about it) is evidence of hypocrisy.

So, if I denounce a murder, and do not denounce every other murder which happened on the same day, because I didn't know about them, or didn't have time, or whatever, does that make me a hypocrit, and mean that my denouncement is invalid or unbalanced or whatever?

I think that you can claim that Ruth is a hypocrit if you can prove that she a) knew about the situation with the Muslim doctor; and b) claimed that it wasn't a big deal. Maybe you can, I don't know.

Same with your earlier post called "hypocracy, thy name is shadie" or whatever. One can criticize wasting money, and not criticize every other example of the government wasting money, without being a hypocrit.

Can someone voice a criticism without trying to apply that criticism to every single group in every single situation so as to seem balanced?

Ti-Guy said...

Can someone voice a criticism without trying to apply that criticism to every single group in every single situation so as to seem balanced?

Sure, but then you reduce the mock factor to zero. And no one's taking away anyone's right to mock the conservative wingnuts. Mercilessly and repeatedy.

Sheesh. Do I have to explain everything?

Adam said...


In the Shaidle case, she is a well-known and outspoken proponent of Catholicism (thus her blog name "Relapsed Catholic"), so CC's charge goes back to church tax exemptions, the Catholic School Board, etc.

I don't think CC is being entirely fair to Ruth; I think her guilt is purely through her association with the Blogging Tories, who generally seem to be in favour of racial/religious profiling.

Olaf said...


Fair enough regarding Shadie.

Ruth, however, is not so clear. I assume your kidding that you can somehow presume her opinion on a matter based on the varied opinions of a loose association.

Meaghan Walker-Williams said...

Everytime the RightWingNuts tell us that Aboriginals need to get out of our little enclaves and stop trying to live a traditional lifestyle on our Indian Reserves" and "stop existing on the fringes of mainstream society", and "come aboard into the 21st century", I ask them why they don't demand the same thing of say hutterites, or hassidic jews.

And the tumbleweeds blow, and the crickets chirp.

My question is met with complete and total silence.

It's kinda funny at this point.

Try it sometime.

Adam said...


Hey, I'm not the one who presumed Ruth's opinion on racial profiling! I'm presuming that CC was presuming... which I suppose makes me less responsible...

Miss Cellania said...

Pardon me, but when did it become illegal to make people nervous?

Anonymous said...

Because Hutterites and Jews aren't surviving on extorted (tax money) handouts MWW. They're actually pretty productive members of society. Unlike some people.

Adam said...

Awwww, trolls can be so cute when they think they're being clever...

Meaghan Walker-Williams said...

"Because Hutterites and Jews aren't surviving on extorted (tax money) handouts MWW. They're actually pretty productive members of society. Unlike some people." --

Unlike some people? Like KKKate's adorable friends Darcey and Raskolnikov who have both admitted to working in actual careers FOR the Indian Act Machine, (i.e. the welfare state) that you Mr.Anonymous seem to think is so evil and they bitch about so much?


What about "those people" eh?