Monday, November 14, 2005

Waterloo Intelligent Design critics: Start your engines!

I'm sure you can have some fun with this guy.


Anonymous said...

Could you track this guy down and recreate the debate you linked to earlier? I recall something about a baseball bat, but perhaps a hockey stick would be a nice touch.

CC said...

I could, but I'm going to be moderately serious here. I want readers to go over his prose and tear it apart. I want to make sure no one gets the mistaken impression that he actually has a cogent point anywhere in that swill.

I'll contribute my part shortly.

v said...

Heh, you are breaking section 319 of the Criminal Code of Canada by encouraging other to gang up, bully, mock and ridicule a fellow Canadian on the basis of his religious beliefs. Pay particular attention to subsection (2)

Section 319(1): Public Incitement of Hatred

The crime of "publicly inciting hatred" has four main elements. To contravene the Code, a person must:

* communicate statements,
* in a public place,
* incite hatred against an identifiable group,
* in such a way that there will likely be a breach of the peace.

Under section 319, "communicating" includes communicating by telephone, broadcasting or other audible or visible means; a "public place" is one to which the public has access by right or invitation, express or implied; and "statements" means words (spoken, written or recorded), gestures, and signs or other visible representations.

All the above elements must be proven for a court to find an accused guilty of either:

* an indictable offence, for which the punishment is imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or
* an offence punishable on summary conviction.

Section 319(2) defines the additional offence of communicating statements, other than in private conversation, that wilfully promote hatred against an identifiable group.

And the test is a lot lower at a Human Rights Tribunal.

I don't mean to be condescending here CC but I don't think of are of the right mind to understand, nor do I think you have the intellectual capacity to grok, that Hate Crimes are somewhat of a bad thing.

Look it breaks down like this: if I encoruaged a bunch of bloggers to mock scorn and ridicule a Jew, or a Hindu, or a Rastafarian - like you are doing here - I would expect to have a 319 dropped on my ass. It's not so much that I offended by your anti-Christ hate, it's just that you need to play by the same rules as all of us. Recognize.

CC said...

Really?? You're admitting that Intelligent Design is a "religious belief?" That's pretty funny, given that the IDers themselves are adamant that it has nothing to do with religion. Nice try.

Well, actually, no, it wasn't a nice try. It was an incredibly pathetic try.


Jon Dursi said...

What is it with right wingers adamantly claiming that words that hurt their feelings are criminal? This guy, Paul Deignan... they're coming out of the woodwork.

Anyway, I tried to make some comments over at the van der Breggan website, and guess what, they never appeared. Right wingers don't like ideas they don't agree with.