Well, here's a potentially interesting development regarding my $130,000 collection enforcement against financial fugitive and flight risk Patrick "Dragon Fire Nexus Quintuple Threat" Ross, and if there are any actual legal beagles in the audience, feel free to weigh in.
I have a copy of the registry title for the Lloydminster property that is Casa Ross (the residence of the late Ken Ross), and I'm open to people who understand this stuff interpreting what it means. I will paraphrase as I don't want to jeopardize any possible legal proceedings I might want to start, but the description of the property lists each of the four Ross siblings (Patrick included) as "a personal representative for the estate of Kenneth Edward Ross," and concludes that section, describing the collection of them as "the registered owners, as joint tenants of Surface Parcel [redacted]."
So what does this mean? Well, it first seems to mean that the part of the will related to that property has not been executed so it's still not clear what's happening to it.
The more interesting part (and I am only speculating here and open to proper legal guidance) is that all four siblings are listed as "registered owners, as joint tenants," which conceivably means that all four of those squalling brats were given a share of the property, whose disposition is yet to be settled. But as the title clearly lists all four as "registered owners," that suggests to me that Patrick officially owns a share of that property, and I have already asked actual lawyers to look into whether, based on Patrick's debt to me, I can walk in and file a claim against at least his share.
Stay tuned, and I will check if I can post the entire title verbatim so that others can examine it more thoroughly, but the fact that Patrick is listed as one of the registered owners seems promising.
ADDENDUM: Responding to first anonymous commenter as to how this would work, again, I am not a lawyer so I don't have an answer to that, but let me speculate wildly.
First, it is extremely encouraging to see that the title lists all four siblings as "registered owners"; this suggests that, regardless of the eventual disposition of that property, all four would seem to need to share in the proceeds of any such disposition. So what are the possibilities?
If the siblings agree that the house should go to just one of the kids, that would normally mean that person would buy out everyone else's share. Well, if part of that buyout represents a share going to Patrick, it only makes sense that I should be able to file to claim that part of the buyout.
On the other hand, if the plan is to sell the property outright and split the proceeds, then, again, there would be a share going to Patrick that I should be able to seize. The fact that Patrick is listed on the title as a "registered owner" suggests pretty strongly that there is something there I can file to take, given his massive debt to me.
I am handing this off to the lawyers, and letting them advise me accordingly, but this looks like it has potential in the sense of my being able to tie up the disposition of the house until I get my share based on what Patrick owes me.
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If all of the children are part owners of the house, how would you file a claim against a fourth of it if that is Patrick's share? I don't see how that would work.
Anon @ 5:06 AM: That is a good question -- I already have some advice from the SK sheriff that oversees my enforcement action against Patrick, and she gave me a very appealing strategy. I am not going to reveal it here just so neither Patrick nor his family can prepare for it, but it has the potential to be very effective. I will reveal all when the time comes.
from Chatgpt
This legal jargon is basically saying the following:
"Each of the four Ross siblings (Patrick included) is listed as a personal representative for the estate of Kenneth Edward Ross"
→ That means all four siblings are acting on behalf of the deceased (Kenneth Edward Ross). A personal representative is someone legally appointed to manage or distribute the estate of a deceased person — like an executor.
"They are described as the registered owners, as joint tenants of Surface Parcel [redacted]"
→ This means that the four siblings now legally own the piece of land mentioned (the surface parcel), and they own it as joint tenants, not tenants-in-common.
What's the key difference?
Joint tenancy means all four of them own the property together equally and with right of survivorship.
→ If one of them dies, their share automatically passes to the remaining owners — it does not go to their heirs or estate.
If they were tenants-in-common, each would own a distinct share (which could be unequal), and their portion would pass to their heirs when they die.
In plain English:
The land is now legally owned by the four Ross siblings together, equally. They’re holding it as representatives of their father’s estate, but they also now own it themselves. Because it's joint tenancy, none of them can pass their share to someone else in a will — if one dies, the others just absorb their share automatically.
We can't imagine any of the siblings can afford to buy the other three out. Penny Ross is struggling financially with a deadbeat ex-husband (and probably urgently needs the money), and none of the three siblings have university degrees. Obviously, Twatsy is in no position to acquire the entire property, either.
I had a suspicion that something of a sort had been done in processing the estate.
This basically says that there is actually a significant legal asset in Patrick's name, and for you that seems to have a number of legal advantages.
As most seem to have figured out, the land title for Casa Ross makes it excruciatingly clear that Patrick is the official owner of valuable property in the province of Saskatchewan, where I have a collection enforcement order against him. More than that, I will keep to myself.
You should take Twatsy's 25% of Daddy "You're doing the work of the devil!" Ross's estate, then refuse to let the other three siblings sell the house until their moronic little, obese brother pays off every dime he owes you.
So that means an estate sale, and the proceeds split equally. This will probably have to go through probate, which is a lengthy, and annoying legal process, and which Patrick will probably stall to delay CC getting what he is due. His siblings, though will want their cut, and won’t be at all happy tolerating Patrick stonewalling that.
So in the end, this can only end one way - CC IS going to get paid. Once that happens, I wonder what Patrick will do then LOL?
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