tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post7703670308952322036..comments2024-03-28T03:54:21.932-04:00Comments on Canadian Cynic: I love being right about everything all the time.CChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11406057201126015750noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-52572716321269474382009-12-28T22:54:37.911-05:002009-12-28T22:54:37.911-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Patrick Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04592482865332628189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-90851676319305616152009-12-28T14:46:42.134-05:002009-12-28T14:46:42.134-05:00The next time you're passing by, Twatsy ... ke...The next time you're passing by, Twatsy ... keep passing.CChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11406057201126015750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-59964927075635313772009-12-28T14:30:51.633-05:002009-12-28T14:30:51.633-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Patrick Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12268876306800933642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-77268468746189091892009-12-28T11:38:14.586-05:002009-12-28T11:38:14.586-05:00with the dissolving of Parliament by Martin, for t...<i>with the dissolving of Parliament by Martin, for the purposes of an election, 'round about when AdScam hit the Liberal Party.</i><br /><br />If you're talking about the 2006 election, he didn't simply ask the GG to dissolve Parliament. The Opposition moved for a vote of non-confidence. Martin <i>allowed</i> that vote to take place.<br /><br />In retrospect, he shouldn't have. After all, it's perfectly democratic to ask the GG to prorogue instead.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-20949522012346844062009-12-28T05:10:15.928-05:002009-12-28T05:10:15.928-05:00*Sigh*. I see Twatsy is once again bored with hav...*Sigh*. I see Twatsy is once again bored with having only three readers at <i>his</i> place so he has to drop by to try to attract some new ones from <i>here</i>.<br /><br />Somehow, the word "pathetic" seems inadequate.CChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11406057201126015750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-3502362464017358882009-12-28T04:18:24.564-05:002009-12-28T04:18:24.564-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Patrick Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04592482865332628189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-26437962513396572962009-12-28T02:17:02.467-05:002009-12-28T02:17:02.467-05:00Oh - my bad. I must have confused the proroguing t...Oh - my bad. I must have confused the proroguing this *December ( fucking all blurs together after a while ), with the dissolving of Parliament by Martin, for the purposes of an election, 'round about when AdScam hit the Liberal Party.<br /><br />Sorry about that - would you say two punches to the arm is appropriate punishment? Or do you think an Indian Burn is called for at this point? <br /><br />At any rate, the GG did sign off on Harper's scrabble to prorogue and put off a confidence motion. That makes me think it wasn't such an undemocratic move.<br /><br />Sigh...I wish I <i>was</i> high.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-82872252103699482282009-12-28T01:55:26.103-05:002009-12-28T01:55:26.103-05:00I have the feeling that Conservative will just inv...I have the feeling that Conservative will just invent "facts" to try and augment weak arguments...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-10711480509517515982009-12-28T01:54:22.205-05:002009-12-28T01:54:22.205-05:00Perhaps I would be more shocked by that action if ...<i>Perhaps I would be more shocked by that action if it hadn't been done before - by the Liberals. See above re: same tricks, different Parties. </i><br />I'm assuming that you are talking about a prorogation by the Liberals. So please tell me when this happened...<br /><br />The Conservatives asked for a prorogation because they were facing a confidence that they were going to loose...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-6449387588115615112009-12-28T01:53:28.642-05:002009-12-28T01:53:28.642-05:00I assume you mean the prorogue this spring, and no...<i>I assume you mean the prorogue this spring, and not the one that's being hinted at right now?</i><br /><br />Spring? It was December, 2008. And when did the Liberals prorogue Parliament to avoid a confidence vote?<br /><br />Are you high? You're high aren't you. Don't lie.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-42435472144918153652009-12-28T01:43:30.619-05:002009-12-28T01:43:30.619-05:00I assume you mean the prorogue this spring, and no...I assume you mean the prorogue this spring, and not the one that's being hinted at right now?<br /><br />Perhaps I would be more shocked by that action if it hadn't been done before - by the Liberals. See above re: same tricks, different Parties. <br /><br />Also see above re: difficult vs. undemocratic. The argument that the Tories were being undemocratic by proroguing this spring might hold water if the GG hadn't signed off on it as well. It's sort of like arguing that forming the Coalition to begin with was undemocratic: it wasn't; it was just kind of shifty, like the proroguing, arguably ( depending who you're cheering for ) was. And I never said that the Tories weren't shifty - in fact, I think I implied it here or there.<br /><br /><i>I'm unused to conservations with people who have absolutely no clue what they're talking about and who are in a constant state of confusion as to what constitute matters of fact versus opinion.</i><br /><br />What was it that somebody said about glass houses, long ago?...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-22836749995593057412009-12-28T01:12:57.313-05:002009-12-28T01:12:57.313-05:00Either that, or a product of private school like d...<i>Either that, or a product of private school like dr roy...</i><br /><br />Well, I wouldn't go that far. And who knows? Maybe Walker went to a good private school, like University of Toronto Schools?<br /><br />*chortle*Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-7015390500804678832009-12-28T01:10:22.662-05:002009-12-28T01:10:22.662-05:00Perhaps you're simply not used to the idea of ...<i>Perhaps you're simply not used to the idea of a conversation without an echo chamber.</i><br /><br />I'm unused to conservations with people who have absolutely no clue what they're talking about and who are in a constant state of confusion as to what constitute matters of fact versus opinion.<br /><br />Remember: My original bone of contention was your assertion that it was absurd to accuse the Harper government of being anti-democratic; an assertion which the prorogation of Parliament (to name just one specific event) <b>to avoid a confidence vote</b> would suggest is not merely just false, but quite frankly irrational.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-81791149362247245922009-12-28T00:57:44.282-05:002009-12-28T00:57:44.282-05:00Ti-Guy - I'm sorry if my trying to engage in a...Ti-Guy - I'm sorry if my trying to engage in a conversation with you has put you off. Perhaps you're simply not used to the idea of a conversation without an echo chamber.<br /><br />At any rate, those details about my life have no bearing in this conversation, which is now over, due to the fact that you're starting to sound like a spoiled thirteen-year-old girl who hasn't gotten her way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-71149710857436210892009-12-28T00:38:22.318-05:002009-12-28T00:38:22.318-05:00Were you home schooled, by any chance?
Either that...<i>Were you home schooled, by any chance?</i><br />Either that, or a product of private school like dr roy...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-81539461320943191792009-12-28T00:33:49.666-05:002009-12-28T00:33:49.666-05:00Shorter Walker: Everyone does it and everything...Shorter Walker: Everyone does it and everything's the same. In addition, I am the most smartest person in the World. So, <i>nyah.</i><br /><br />Were you home schooled, by any chance?Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-5829059927724884402009-12-28T00:21:19.464-05:002009-12-28T00:21:19.464-05:00Wow - whiny much, Ti-Guy?Wow - whiny much, Ti-Guy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-75588885528009829962009-12-28T00:03:56.703-05:002009-12-28T00:03:56.703-05:00Well that's 30 seconds I'll never get back...Well that's 30 seconds I'll never get back.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-18086396541832069682009-12-27T22:15:28.590-05:002009-12-27T22:15:28.590-05:00Er - I meant 'to make them undemocratic makes,...Er - I meant 'to make them undemocratic makes, well, practically every government in existence undemocratic'. Damn typos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-54902358580898935622009-12-27T22:13:58.245-05:002009-12-27T22:13:58.245-05:00Ti-Guy - Well, you could have done that without wa...Ti-Guy - <i>Well, you could have done that without wagging your finger and clucking your tongue at the Opposition.</i><br /><br />I could have, but I didn't. Where'd be the fun in that? <br /><br /><i>Starters for what? What's that link supposed to be in response to?</i>.<br /><br />The comment that you left just above mine. I guess I didn't make that clear enough; my bad.<br /><br /><i>And what is that difference, exactly?</i><br /><br />The difference between being difficult and being undemocratic should be obvious. Every government is difficult. Every government tries to bend the rules. The Tories are no exception to this - to make them undemocratic makes, well, practically every government in existence democratic ( although to be fair, democracy is hardly the rule in many countries ).<br /><br />Cherniak - I honestly have no response to that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-79950513872446467662009-12-27T21:10:03.092-05:002009-12-27T21:10:03.092-05:00There's a difference between a Canadian soldie...<i>There's a difference between a Canadian soldier being killed, and a Taliban soldier being handed over to his own government for rough treatment.</i><br />If you send a soldier to go "fight", there is a chance that he may die is whatever adventure he's been sent. He has no say it it and if he comes back in a pine box, so be it.<br /><br />If we are in Afghanistan to "liberate" and "democratize", then yes, we are responsible for the treatment. The Harper excuse of "we are giving them to their government" is a joke. But then again, torture by proxy seems acceptable to right-winger: you would never want to take responsibility for your fuck-ups right? The mayor of Kabul is closer to a placed dictator than a functioning government - he would not be there is not for the grace of nations such as the U.S. and Canada. <br /><br />So being an enabler somehow makes it acceptable?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-77993805210059021132009-12-27T20:52:20.156-05:002009-12-27T20:52:20.156-05:00Ti-Guy - For starters: http://canadiancynic.blogsp...<i>Ti-Guy - For starters: http://canadiancynic.blogspot.com/2009/12/nad-snapping-irony-of-it-all.html</i><br /><br />Starters for what? What's that link supposed to be in response to?<br /><br /><i>Undemocratic is a very hefty word to be throwing around, and like I said in the blog-post, there's a difference between being difficult and being undemocratic.</i><br /><br />And what is that difference, exactly?<br /><br /><i>I'm not trying to defend the Tories, here. I'll be the first one to say that I think they've handled the Afghan detainees scandal quite badly.</i><br /><br />Well, you could have done that without wagging your finger and clucking your tongue at the Opposition.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-6128868609728602002009-12-27T20:40:32.652-05:002009-12-27T20:40:32.652-05:00Walter, before passing judgment, I did visit your ...<i>Walter, before passing judgment, I did visit your blog. All I saw were the same regurgitated Connie talking points with a better vocabulary.</i><br /><br />Thanks, I guess. <br /><br /><i>So subverting and bending most laws and spirit of parliament is simply "being difficult"....</i><br /><br />Meh. Same game, different party name. Why act surprised?<br /><br /><i>Little Harper's big Afghanistan adventure is a joke. I'm amused by the fact Conservative say torture is nothing but are the first to cry when a soldier comes back in a body bag.... Let's face, you join the army, you may die. So if torturing and killing innocent Afghanis is acceptable to you, you'll have no problem with the blowback, right?</i><br /><br />There's a difference between a Canadian soldier being killed, and a Taliban soldier being handed over to his own government for rough treatment. From where I'm standing, you're the one being relativistic right now.<br /><br />A caveat - I'm not defending torture, necessarily. I'm just saying that right now, what happened to a few Taliban soldiers three years ago in an Afghan prison isn't too high on my priority list. The Tories' mishandling of this scandal, for instance, being of slightly higher priority.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-85247724466203514522009-12-27T20:30:13.238-05:002009-12-27T20:30:13.238-05:00Walter, before passing judgment, I did visit your ...Walter, before passing judgment, I did visit your blog. All I saw were the same regurgitated Connie talking points with a better vocabulary. <br /><br />As for Libertas, there is an irony of claiming to be neutral yet seem to parrot whatever Conservative message of the moment seems to be. <br /><br /><i>there's a difference between being difficult and being undemocratic</i><br />So subverting and bending most laws and spirit of parliament is simply "being difficult".... <br /><br /><br />Little Harper's big Afghanistan adventure is a joke. I'm amused by the fact Conservative say torture is nothing but are the first to cry when a soldier comes back in a body bag.... Let's face, you join the army, you may die. So if torturing and killing innocent Afghanis is acceptable to you, you'll have no problem with the blowback, right?<br /><br />There is a relativism inherent to Conservatives that border on a sort of mental illness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-56383258317222520052009-12-27T19:22:16.633-05:002009-12-27T19:22:16.633-05:00Ti-Guy - For starters: http://canadiancynic.blogsp...Ti-Guy - For starters: http://canadiancynic.blogspot.com/2009/12/nad-snapping-irony-of-it-all.html<br /><br />Also, you might notice that I don't cite <i>all</i> of those on the Non-Right - just some, as in the example above. <br /><br /><i>That the actions of the Harpies are anti-democratic is hard to dispute</i><br /><br />Is it? Undemocratic is a very hefty word to be throwing around, and like I said in the blog-post, there's a difference between being difficult and being undemocratic. <br /><br />But no matter - I'm not trying to defend the Tories, here. I'll be the first one to say that I think they've handled the Afghan detainees scandal quite badly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com