tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post4201243312446609962..comments2024-03-28T03:54:21.932-04:00Comments on Canadian Cynic: Does being entertained by this make me a bad person?CChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11406057201126015750noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-72803417350686838712008-12-19T19:57:00.000-05:002008-12-19T19:57:00.000-05:00When you read the level of discourse Blog Blogging...When you read the level of discourse Blog Blogging Wingnut favours, it becomes apparent that discussing rights, law, ethics and reason from the perspective of the 13th century Catholic Church doctrine sounds exactly right.deBeauxOshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08331662556005876488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-10437818282699521532008-12-18T21:12:00.000-05:002008-12-18T21:12:00.000-05:00LS,I think you're sort of right, but not quite. Na...LS,<BR/><BR/>I think you're sort of right, but not quite. Natural rights crop up in Locke and are clearly not secular -- Locke derives them from a divine creator. Human rights is a later variant which tries to ditch the god-connection and ground it in human nature. Which is where Kant comes in who, although a religious man himself, didn't think there was such a thing as religious <I>knowledge</I> and considered ethics too important to not have real knowledge associated with it; hence why he tried to pull ethics out of the formal structure of reason itself.<BR/><BR/>That said, I vaguely recall Aquinas connecting human reason to natural law. So that may be SUZIE'S inspiration rather than Kant.<BR/><BR/>That said, you have to look pretty hard to find anyone in moral philosophy who takes natural law, natural rights or Kant's grounding of ethics at face value. Even human rights are under attack (from those who reject rights altogether and from those who think rights must be extended to higher primates and other animals, too). So, SUZIE may not be making an error in presenting the historical idea, but she's clearly making an error in assuming that discussion of rights, law, ethics and reason stopped in the 13th century.ADHRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00854569640217600183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-55112756775915764352008-12-18T17:28:00.000-05:002008-12-18T17:28:00.000-05:00Egads, what an unspeakable cretin. I hope the nurs...Egads, what an unspeakable cretin. <BR/><BR/>I hope the nurses at whatever institution mahmood's posting from are coming around soon with his thorazine.JJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09458917081261136618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-34257009689780098132008-12-18T11:08:00.000-05:002008-12-18T11:08:00.000-05:00I will explain The Natural Law once I get the time...I will explain The Natural Law once I get the time to put it together. But since we're on the subject, does anyone out there know the constitutional status of the cat sanctuary on that hill? Or the natural rights of the incumbent cats? Or the historical privileges of the cats that inhabit parliament? Is "The White Mother" anything like the Speaker? Just like to know.The Seerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115651806512267553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-71868667544967686152008-12-18T10:22:00.000-05:002008-12-18T10:22:00.000-05:00But she confuses Natural Law with natural rights (...But she confuses Natural Law with natural rights (which are a secularist version of human rights), and then later confuses Natural Law with Kantian morals.<BR/><BR/>I think she just wanted a fancy sounding term to throw around.LogicallySpeakinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17693753249414891507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-86446652234659370952008-12-18T10:06:00.000-05:002008-12-18T10:06:00.000-05:00Two things kind of jumped out at me...1) The natur...Two things kind of jumped out at me...<BR/><BR/>1) <I>The natural law are those universal moral precepts knowable through reason alone.</I><BR/><BR/>OK, so 'reason' is the be all and end all to ALL-CAPS... except, of course, when it's not. <BR/><BR/><BR/>2)<I>"If you don't know why I'm mad, I'm not going to tell you."</I><BR/><BR/>Ummmmm... that reminds me why I like being single and unattached. ;-)Frank Frinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05727863730658037306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-62855550600550595802008-12-18T08:44:00.000-05:002008-12-18T08:44:00.000-05:00All you ever wanted to know about the Catholic con...All you ever wanted to know about the Catholic concept of natural law:<BR/><BR/>http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09076a.htm<BR/><BR/>Lucky we have the Church to tell us what is in conformity with our natures and what isn't.<BR/><BR/>Are we allowed to play with our anteaters? Just ask SUZANNE!Dr.Dawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00416571487451925246noreply@blogger.com