tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post3867140599195490447..comments2024-03-28T03:54:21.932-04:00Comments on Canadian Cynic: Is It Wednesday Yet?CChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11406057201126015750noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-26721031743417962922008-11-04T20:02:00.000-05:002008-11-04T20:02:00.000-05:00Well put, Chris.Well put, Chris.Alisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09811694143714068436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-28361434554727322032008-11-04T19:52:00.000-05:002008-11-04T19:52:00.000-05:00chris, i think yopu owe ti-guy an apology....KEvro...chris, i think yopu owe ti-guy an apology....<BR/><BR/>KEvronKEvronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16732621823124759996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-74169239896378410542008-11-04T16:56:00.000-05:002008-11-04T16:56:00.000-05:00Two things...first quite feeling sorry for yoursel...Two things...first quite feeling sorry for yourselves about expressing your opinion. So what if you're a heretic, why should what people think of you matter? And what do you care if people think you're racist for criticizing Obama rositti? If you're nOT racist, then they are wrong. Just keep going.<BR/><BR/>Cripes.<BR/><BR/>And then, okay look, this guy is running for PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. It's not a job that outsiders ever win. It's not a job he will be allowed to do as a radical left wing organizer. America is inherently conservative, and the political establishment is just that: established. Pretty firmly. <BR/><BR/>Having said all that, Obama's surge is doing three things worth noting. One, he his energizing non-white voters who are blinking their eyes in disbelief that a black man will become President on January 20th. Two, he is galvanizing world opinion positively towards the United States which helps a great deal to make for a more peaceful world. And three, and perhpas most important, take a look at the progressive political action going on in the US. The Presidential race is just one thing. At th elocal level there are scores of incredibly radical people about to be elected, and lots of ultra right wing agendas are suffering in the referendum campaigns. Gay marriage will be legalized in Conneticut and Proposiion 8 in Calaifornia seems to be going down.<BR/><BR/>Radical politics will never have a place at the top of the American political food chain, but it lives at the local level and this year it is coming on. In that sense the President doesn't matter, but this year THIS President matters at that level.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09515693806377843182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-39893210934127750602008-11-04T16:08:00.000-05:002008-11-04T16:08:00.000-05:00Hey, PSA, interesting how we each come at it diffe...Hey, PSA, interesting how we each come at it <A HREF="http://thereginamom.wordpress.com/2008/10/26/who-will-write-the-united-states-next-great-poem/" REL="nofollow">differently</A>, but end up at a similar place.<BR/><BR/><I>"The American transformation will only come through the concerted effort of American citizens to hold that man and his fellows to task.</I> <BR/><BR/>But I don't know that I agree with your prediction that the change they need is exactly what they'll fight against. I have a strong sense that Americans will be able to continue insisting upon the changes necessary to move towards a more fair and just society. Certainly, that kind of change is not going to happen overnight. It cannot. But what we have seen in our neighbours to the south is an awakening. And it is hard, if not impossible, to go back to that kind of deep sleep after being awakened.<BR/><BR/>That said, I'm in agreement with you on Canada "<I>drawing back from American influence and control. No to deep integration. No to further "free" trade. No to common defence. No to American control over our security in the fallacious war against terror. No to the sharing of our personal and/or biometric data with a deeply corrupt police state. No under Bush, no under Obama. No."</I> <BR/><BR/>I don't think I've heard any progressives say otherwise.the regina momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01450243661848540975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-729125547170338192008-11-04T14:29:00.000-05:002008-11-04T14:29:00.000-05:00PSA : Not that you need any help here but : Change...PSA : Not that you need any help here but : <A HREF="http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/528601" REL="nofollow">Change should be more than a slogan</A>Alisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09811694143714068436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-11769325484602582712008-11-04T12:10:00.000-05:002008-11-04T12:10:00.000-05:00It will be used by some as proof that they are not...<I>It will be used by some as proof that they are not capable of national leadership.</I><BR/><BR/>Ah yes.... the ole '...they may not have some of the necessities...' line, which apparently is <I>still</I> in circulation... <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=1506700&type=page2Story" REL="nofollow">plus ça change...</A>Frank Frinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05727863730658037306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-33811496541752249582008-11-04T05:46:00.000-05:002008-11-04T05:46:00.000-05:00Not only are they letting the Dems take the blame ...Not only are they letting the Dems take the blame for the coming shit storm, but the first black president. Which may make it even harder for the next black contender to get into the top spot. It will be used by some as proof that they are not capable of national leadership.Katkinkatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06948750590917966934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-37447219933033220522008-11-04T00:56:00.000-05:002008-11-04T00:56:00.000-05:00i'm so unfair.wv = "whingi". lol!KEvroni'm so <I>unfair</I>.<BR/><BR/>wv = "whingi". lol!<BR/><BR/>KEvronKEvronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16732621823124759996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-76780626857326347002008-11-03T23:36:00.000-05:002008-11-03T23:36:00.000-05:00Funny. I get "You're a degenerate cooking sherry ...Funny. I get "You're a degenerate cooking sherry drunk!"<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, Redtory only gets "No...<I>Noooo!</I>...Not you, too?"...*swoon*Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-85685951657014162192008-11-03T23:29:00.000-05:002008-11-03T23:29:00.000-05:00there goes my "single malt" theory....KEvronthere goes my "single malt" theory....<BR/><BR/>KEvronKEvronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16732621823124759996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-14328961374890895432008-11-03T23:01:00.000-05:002008-11-03T23:01:00.000-05:00ti-guy, you wanna catch the pivot on this?Huh? I'...<I>ti-guy, you wanna catch the pivot on this?</I><BR/><BR/>Huh? I'm busy. I'm writing the commissioner of official languages to complain about this flat of <I>Pam</I> that was delivered by forklift to my home today. All the labelling is in English and Spanish only.Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-59402695540602360272008-11-03T22:56:00.000-05:002008-11-03T22:56:00.000-05:00My comparison about green stuff was not based on c...My comparison about green stuff was not based on considering what specific policies he has come out with there.<BR/><BR/>Just that he could issue a grand challenge to become energy self sufficient, thereby setting the agenda to do so. He could just as easily set a challenge to ensure everyone has health care, and it would be more likely to happen simply because he is behind it.<BR/><BR/>That is what the US President is supposed to do, lead by challenging his own people to be their best and inviting the world to help.<BR/><BR/>I've had enough of those who think the world is going to hell and you might as well grab and consume as much as you can and to fuck with anyone else. We're capable of better and we deserve leaders who think so.liberal supporterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01129945625510633921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-18898665362619273432008-11-03T22:51:00.000-05:002008-11-03T22:51:00.000-05:00"yes but don't forget the unicorns"they'll come in...<I>"yes but don't forget the unicorns"</I><BR/><BR/>they'll come in handy when obama announces his "green shift"....<BR/><BR/>KEvronKEvronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16732621823124759996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-47264842632961870902008-11-03T22:42:00.000-05:002008-11-03T22:42:00.000-05:00to be honest, ls, i havn't given his interior poli...to be honest, ls, i havn't given his interior policies much attention. been too focused on iraq and foreign policy, bush's cuts, nat'l heathcare and, now, the current crisis. ultimately, greener policy is inevitable, but i do believe his admin would make greater advances sooner. <BR/><BR/>ti-guy, you wanna catch the pivot on this?<BR/><BR/>KEvronKEvronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16732621823124759996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-71311725845969658752008-11-03T22:27:00.000-05:002008-11-03T22:27:00.000-05:00yes but don't forget the unicorns ;-)yes but don't forget the unicorns ;-)Lindsay Stewarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13461043718147845594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-74328155739949777372008-11-03T22:25:00.000-05:002008-11-03T22:25:00.000-05:00do you snicker at the word "mixer"?I snicker at th...<I>do you snicker at the word "mixer"?</I><BR/><BR/>I snicker at the words "use in a well-ventilated space."<BR/><BR/>Anyway, talk louder...I can't <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqJAhQJdPeg" REL="nofollow">hear you.</A>Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-66140943864187072602008-11-03T22:21:00.000-05:002008-11-03T22:21:00.000-05:00Thanks KEvron, always nice when you elaborate on y...Thanks KEvron, always nice when you elaborate on your views. One article I read says both Obama and Biden are highly intelligent. I think some real brains is what is most needed now.<BR/><BR/>One can criticize the details (or lack of such) of Obama's policies, but I see them as simply dry runs for the policies he would actually put in place. They really only speak to his character. We did see his positions change in light of new information, this being seen as a weakness by some, I see it as evidence of someone willing to listen.<BR/><BR/>What is being forgotten is the President is not supposed to be micromanaging the details. Bush was good at leaving the details to others though I disagree with the directions he took. He did this a little too well, allowing the neocons surrounding him set the agenda and never reigned them in. <BR/><BR/>When the Kyoto Protocol was slowly working its way through ratification, I supported it. I supported the idea of the world working together on a problem. I believed that we would never be sending money to other countries to buy credits, instead we would be investing in research to develop better technologies. I hoped it would be an agenda setting process that would result in the kind of breakthroughs that past efforts on grand challenges have produced.<BR/><BR/>In my view, Obama would have the same kind of effect, of bringing people and nations together to work on the challenges of our time. As President of the US, he can indeed be that galvanizing force. He sets the agenda, others work out the details. I don't recall President Kennedy being a rocket scientist or having much more than advisers telling him it was possible, but he said go to the moon in ten years, and they did. The computers we use today owe a great deal to the spinoffs of meeting that grand challenge.<BR/><BR/>So it could be with Obama. A galvanizing motivating force. <BR/><BR/>In Canada, had we tried to do things that are in aid of our Kyoto agreements, instead of our own government mounting a shrieking attack where scientists are politicized and science treated as faith, we might now be preparing to open the Chevy Volt factory in Oshawa next year, instead of it going to Hamtramck the year after. I believe the galvanizing effect of something like Kyoto would have Canada on a much better economic footing today. Instead we continue to be hewers of wood and haulers of water. Just a resource based economy gradually losing all the value added work we've had.<BR/><BR/>I think Obama would be much more able to formulate and pose the grand challenges that will get us out of the messes we are in. As he has said, energy independence and making the economy work. I think he may surprise in foreign policy with resolving a few long standing problems. His personal credibility will go a long way there.<BR/><BR/>I believe he will be one of the greatest Presidents.liberal supporterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01129945625510633921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-51789794316759008602008-11-03T22:18:00.000-05:002008-11-03T22:18:00.000-05:00we gotta get a bigger mulberry bush....do you snic...we gotta get a bigger mulberry bush....<BR/><BR/>do you snicker at the word "mixer"?<BR/><BR/>KEvronKEvronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16732621823124759996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-37305259607064416222008-11-03T22:11:00.000-05:002008-11-03T22:11:00.000-05:00Oh, well...For future reference, everybody...think...Oh, well...<BR/><BR/>For future reference, everybody...think only happy thoughts about KEvron's beloved native land. The Pollyanna's down there get awfully <I>pissy</I> and right quick if you don't join in on the "Shiny Happy People" celebration.<BR/><BR/>Smiles, everyone...smiles...Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-86029158477171953542008-11-03T22:06:00.000-05:002008-11-03T22:06:00.000-05:00and are you as drunk yet as you are bitter?KEvronand are you as drunk yet as you are bitter?<BR/><BR/>KEvronKEvronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16732621823124759996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-38297990274908894882008-11-03T22:05:00.000-05:002008-11-03T22:05:00.000-05:00"How old are you anyway?"how drunk are you?KEvron<I>"How old are you anyway?"</I><BR/><BR/>how drunk are you?<BR/><BR/>KEvronKEvronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16732621823124759996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-35824750614990577902008-11-03T21:57:00.000-05:002008-11-03T21:57:00.000-05:00have you, now?Yes. How old are you anyway?<I>have you, now?</I><BR/><BR/>Yes. How old are you anyway?Ti-Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06620550471437012866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-48780685746478976822008-11-03T21:50:00.000-05:002008-11-03T21:50:00.000-05:00If you aren't getting wet, psa, then you actually ...If you aren't getting wet, psa, then you actually are pointing in the right direction.<BR/><BR/>Either that or it's pure dumb luck.Frank Frinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05727863730658037306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-84621063918554495352008-11-03T21:46:00.000-05:002008-11-03T21:46:00.000-05:00in my heart of hearts i'm pissing with the wind, i...in my heart of hearts i'm pissing <I>with</I> the wind, i swear.Lindsay Stewarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13461043718147845594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-63623150476397072872008-11-03T21:44:00.000-05:002008-11-03T21:44:00.000-05:00"We've been there before..."(unblinking stare)have...<I>"We've been there before..."</I><BR/><BR/>(unblinking stare)<BR/><BR/>have you, now?<BR/><BR/>KEvronKEvronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16732621823124759996noreply@blogger.com