tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post114414874426963256..comments2024-03-28T03:54:21.932-04:00Comments on Canadian Cynic: Dear Gideons: Please fuck off.CChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11406057201126015750noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-53220750360373214352009-11-18T22:40:49.890-05:002009-11-18T22:40:49.890-05:00here, here!
- Joshhere, here!<br />- JoshJoshua Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12682712482565565465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-15205257566875303342008-10-28T09:20:00.000-04:002008-10-28T09:20:00.000-04:00Amazing. You know why the religious insist that th...Amazing. You know why the religious insist that the irreligious are amoral?<BR/><BR/>It's not because you don't believe in their god.<BR/><BR/>It's because you insist on spewing brainless bullshit like this.<BR/><BR/>The Gideons, according to your own article, are giving bibles to people WHO WANT THEM.<BR/><BR/>Want evangelism to stop? Tough shit, it isn't going to. 97% of the human population have a superstitious belief in something greater than humanity. I don't share it, but when I read the morning paper or watch the evening news, I can sure as hell understand why that's the last place they can turn to for hope that the universe as a whole isn't one gigantic fuckup.<BR/><BR/>So it's a crutch -- well, guess what, assholes, THE HUMAN RACE IS FUCKING CRIPPLED. Let them have their crutch.<BR/><BR/>You're an atheist? I'm an atheist, and that is NOT what you're showing here. You're an ANTItheist, which makes you a fucking HYPOCRITE. <BR/><BR/>The a- in atheism means WITHOUT. So go WITHOUT being the same judgmental, self-righteous prick these people piss you off by being. <BR/><BR/>Live your life, do what you want, and when it comes to other people living THEIR lives and doing what THEY want, keep your fucking mouth SHUT.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17543310180002701388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-25171357719792858092007-02-06T06:46:00.000-05:002007-02-06T06:46:00.000-05:00Thank you- good article!
It's about time we got ri...Thank you- good article!<br />It's about time we got rid of this evangelist bullshit once and for all.<br />And i'm not saying that as an atheist, I'm a Wiccan!<br />I have religious beliefs, but I don't try and force them on others and I certainly wouldn't try and bring my children up that way.<br />Religion for children is brainwashing, pure and simple, hence I won't let my Christian girlfriend have our children Christened, when we have some.<br />Children should be free to choose, and whatever anyone says- if you're brought up to believe something then your belief simply becomes a product of your environment.<br />Here in the UK, the Gideons give out Bibles to every kid in school!<br /><b>I say- No Sunday School, No Free Bibles and No Fucking Evangelism!</b><br />WillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-1169889226072811222007-01-27T04:13:00.000-05:002007-01-27T04:13:00.000-05:00Before people call for a complete separation of ch...Before people call for a complete separation of church and state, I think it should be required that they actually understand what that means.<BR/><BR/>What it does NOT mean:<BR/><BR/>1. That people should not be allowed to practice their faith in public places or in a public manner.<BR/><BR/>2. That people of defined religions should be denied access to democratic processes enjoyed by those of uncertain faith.<BR/><BR/>3. That cultural traditions with roots in the traditions of religious faiths should be banned from public view.<BR/><BR/>4. That people of faith should be prevented from reaching out to others in order to share their faith.<BR/><BR/>What it DOES mean:<BR/><BR/>1. That the ability to create laws lies strictly with the state. The church has no special right to take the law into its own hands.<BR/><BR/>2. That the abilities of churches to set the tenets of their faith and to be masters of their own destiny is protected from interference from the state.<BR/><BR/>What it INFERS (in my opinion):<BR/><BR/>1. That people of all faiths, including atheism (which after all is the faith that God does not exist, in spite of the fact that it cannot be proven)have the right to reach out to others and share their faith.<BR/><BR/>2. That people have the right to choose to listen or not listen to those who wish to reach out to them in such a way.<BR/><BR/>3. That the state cannot impose a certain set of religious beliefs on the public, nor compel people to break their faith as a result of such an imposition.<BR/><BR/>4. That laws enacted by a democratically elected body that represents the state may reflect the cultural influence of various faiths, but that these laws do not necessarily constitute the imposition of a given faith/religion.<BR/><BR/>I fail to see how an ad such as the one described in your post compels people to break their faith. It is not an imposition. It is easy to ignore. The Bibles are free if you want to take certain steps to get them, but there is no compulsion to do so. I suspect that no other faiths are represented because no-one else has asked. I suspect that if everyone asked all would be denied: not for religious or philosophical reasons, but for lack of space.<BR/><BR/>In fact, I think your post shows a much lower degree of tolerance than that shown by those people you are referring to as "stupid". It is their right to believe what they believe and to live consistently with those beliefs. And for this you denigrate them (I assume this is the only reason, because you offered little else). Yes, people of faith can seem narrow minded, but that is the nature of faith. Your post does not seem very open to their point of view either, especially since the actions that you outline in no way impact your quality of life or your ability to pursue your own beliefs.<BR/><BR/>My advise? Just relax. Your apparent propensity to be offended by everything and everyone who do not share your opinion will only hurt you.<BR/><BR/>And in the likely event that you are already writing me off as a religious nut, let me assure you that I am not. Well, not religious anyway.Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06204675678187367653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-1144249940409387012006-04-05T11:12:00.000-04:002006-04-05T11:12:00.000-04:00As a Wiccan, I find that pretty damned offensive, ...As a Wiccan, I find that pretty damned offensive, but not at all surprising. <BR/><BR/>It's just another dose of the same shit we deal with every day from these people. <BR/><BR/>Personally, I'd like to see a complete separation of church and state, because it's a joke in this country and the punchline seems to be spreading northward as well. It's really up to us as parents to teach our children about spirituality, and I don't want to have my children proselytized to in school. <BR/><BR/>Is it any wonder so many Pagan parents homeschool their children?Shannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00655908609999077505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-1144221642069029552006-04-05T03:20:00.000-04:002006-04-05T03:20:00.000-04:00I agree with lept. Complete separation of church ...I agree with lept. <B>Complete</B> separation of church and state. (And the silly clothes, etc. too.)<BR/><BR/>goodgrief, you made some excellent points. Contrary to 'popular' opinion, one does <B>not</B> have to be a <I>believer</I> in any particular religion, myth or fantasy to be a good human being. Fact of the matter is that I've known many so-called religious people who weren't worth a dime (that's putting it charitably!), and then again, I've known some who were deeply religious yet also good, caring, helpful human beings. Religious beliefs or lack thereof have nothing to do with a person's 'goodness'.<BR/><BR/>I have a great disdain for proselytizers. To each his own, live and let live, and don't shove your religious beliefs (and your life-style) down anyone else's throat. It should be a personal thing, between you and your inner self, or your God if you prefer, and then only in your own fellowship community. As for the Gideons, I'm surprised they're still around and active.Annamariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07669854385078057495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-1144190027559871742006-04-04T18:33:00.000-04:002006-04-04T18:33:00.000-04:00Thanks for the post. I had no idea this kind of no...Thanks for the post. I had no idea this kind of nonsense was still occuring. With the crisis in Educational funding in many provinces, I find it appalling that even one dime of public money, via the third party school interaction, is being used for this type of activity. Many teachers I know are using their own money to buy activity books, library books and basics such as pencils and paper. I've personally contributed to coordinating and participating in fundraising efforts through school councils because the government funding is just not sufficient to cover all the bases.<BR/>Lept - you are absolutely correct. Church and state - separate entities. <BR/>Although in my later years - I am an atheist - I did have my children baptised in the Church of my youth, but only when they were old enough to understand the significance of the ceremony at ages 7 and 5. During the baptismal service, they were presented with their very own copies of the bible. I continued taking them to Sunday School until they indicated that they were no longer interested, at which point I gratefully ended the endeavour. We had many discussions about religions of all kinds after that, and today, my kids are just like Mom - atheist. They haven't suffered - they are two of the nicest, most caring individuals that I have ever met, and I'm so very proud of them. They volunteer, contribute time & money to charitable causes but are just not interested in organized religions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-1144161383353718222006-04-04T10:36:00.000-04:002006-04-04T10:36:00.000-04:00The complete separation of church and state: no su...The <B>complete</B> separation of church and state: no superstitious crap in the public system.Point. Simple!<BR/>(No silly clothes or accoutrements either if I had my way.)<BR/><BR/>Side note: when I took Canadian citizenship, a while ago, the Gideons GAVE everyone a bible and mentioned that there were other books available to swear on at the back of the 'court'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com