tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post112474424632362794..comments2024-03-28T03:54:21.932-04:00Comments on Canadian Cynic: No, Israel didn't "win" the Gaza Strip during the war.CChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11406057201126015750noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-1124750815017117912005-08-22T18:46:00.000-04:002005-08-22T18:46:00.000-04:00Junker wrote:"Israel struck first on a tactical le...Junker wrote:<BR/><BR/>"<I>Israel struck first on a tactical level, because it had no other choice.</I>"<BR/><BR/>I'll tell you what. For the sake of argument, I'll just flat out give you that one -- that Israel had no choice and that they were provoked into it.<BR/><BR/>In exchange, I want <I>your</I> admission that, under the Geneva Conventions, Israel had absolutely no right to keep control over those occupied territories.<BR/><BR/>You've read my admission. Now let's see yours.CChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11406057201126015750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-1124750221119727002005-08-22T18:37:00.000-04:002005-08-22T18:37:00.000-04:00Israel struck first on a tactical level, because i...Israel struck first on a tactical level, because it had no other choice. The armies massed against it, poised to attack, far outnumbered the puny IDF. By initiating the first stike, they won the key advantage against the arab armies who were itching for a fight. They got one.Junkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762100572428347752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-1124749378278803342005-08-22T18:22:00.000-04:002005-08-22T18:22:00.000-04:00By the way, who started it always depends on whose...By the way, who started it always depends on whose account you're reading, of course. One might say that a fairly neutral account might come from MSN Encarta, which writes:<BR/><BR/><I>In 1956 Israel overran Egypt in the Suez-Sinai War. Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser vowed to avenge Arab losses and press the cause of Palestinian nationalism. To this end, he organized an alliance of Arab states surrounding Israel and mobilized for war. Israel preempted the invasion with its own attack on June 5, 1967.</I><BR/><BR/>Note the reference to preemption. Whether or not they had cause, that clearly suggests that Israel was the initiator.<BR/><BR/>As I said, though, who started it makes no difference when it comes to the Geneva Conventions.CChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11406057201126015750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6708375.post-1124748348476026232005-08-22T18:05:00.000-04:002005-08-22T18:05:00.000-04:00Part of the justification is that, since Israel di...Part of the justification is that, since Israel didn't start the 1967 war, just defended themselves, they are entitled to it. They didn't try to take the land, they just ended up with it after they were done defending themselves. Like punitive damages.<BR/><BR/>(I don't agree with it, I'm just articulating it.)<BR/><BR/>I wonder what the Romans would think of the idea of not being allowed to wage war for territory or women.Corihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00931563994508917177noreply@blogger.com