Wednesday, April 09, 2008

Yes, that's a smoking gun all right, Sandy.


Shorter Sandy: "The mainstream media is just full of liberal bias, and this opinion piece in the Toronto Sun proves it."

35 comments:

Red Tory said...

What a bunch of whiners.

Ti-Guy said...

She's using the excuse to that she's a just a blogger to imply the defamation of journalistic malpractice right, left and centre?

At some point, I hope the journalists hit back. I want them to be held responsible for journalist malpractice, but these paranoid accusations of "bias" have got to stop; coming from an "educator" like Sandy (who consulted for the Harrisites), it's disturbing and misleading.

KEvron said...

so....

i read the op/ed piece, and the incriminating passage was nowhere to be seen. then i googled the passage, and got three results for it (all leslie's piece - different outlets), yet the passage was not within the piece. would appear leslie or his editor's elected to remove it.

was it irresponsible for leslie to make the claim? without supporting it, sure. one could argue that the retraction satisfies responsibility, although a disclaimer of an update would have been prudent. still....

bias in an opinion piece?! oh my god!!1! i'm certain no conservative contributor could ever be accused of the same. espicially if you don't bother to look for it.


was the passage retracted for the sake of journalistic integrity, or to hide a flagrant bias? i bet sandy will suppose the answe for us....

KEvron

KEvron said...

uh-oh!

[....]

“Opposition Leader Bob Runciman also said McGuinty should call off Pupatello’s trip, but appeared more concerned with job losses in Ontario than Tibet and the human rights issue.

“‘We’re losing jobs hand over fist in this province - 25,000 manufacturing jobs just last month - and she’s traipsing off to China for who knows what purpose other than get the hell out of here and not be able to put up with the heat in the kitchen,’ said Runciman.”

i tried to let her down easy....

KEvron

Red Tory said...

LOL. Yeah, I can really feel his concern for the human rights of Tibetans dripping from that statement.

I'm sure we'll be seeing a correction to her post anytime now...

Red Tory said...

Even funnier was her response to Crabby when he took her to task over some assumptions she was freely making herself:

I have answered all I am going to say on your topic. My post speaks for itself. Send an e-mail to the journalist.

Translation: Fuck off and die.

KEvron said...

runciman's blatantly biased supposition on the point of pupatello's trip was deliciously ironic!

KEvron

KEvron said...

AAAH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

KEvron

Red Tory said...

Busted.

Well, at least she didn't seem too irate about it.

KEvron said...

"at least she didn't seem too irate about it."

i'm working on it....

KEvron

Crux-of-the-Matter said...

I'm not irate guys. At least your paying attention.

Ti-Guy said...

We really wish we didn't have to, Ms. Crux. These baseless accusations of bias have gone beyond the sensible and into the paranoid and defamatory.

And it's spelled "you're."

¢rÄßG®äŠŠ said...

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Woot.

LuLu said...

Crabby! Six things, if you please. I think I've been quite patient with you ...

CC said...

Sandy gets unjustifiably sanctimonious:

"I'm not irate guys. At least your paying attention."

If that was supposed to be funny, Sandy, let me assure you that it fell hideously wide of the mark. The only reason we here on the Left pay such attention to you wanks is that you are so constantly, perpetually, relentlessly wrong. About damned near everything.

More than one of your BT colleagues has made fun of this site, suggesting that if it weren't for the Blogging Tories, we might not have anything to blog about. And you know what? In a weird way, they're right, but only because pointing out your errors and distortions and misrepresentations is a full-time job.

And you, Sandy, are a perfect example of that, with your constant bitching and moaning about that bad ol' liberal media bias, while simultaneously publishing worthless, right-wing rubbish. Like, for instance, the very piece that's been disemboweled here.

So please, Sandy, don't try to come off as smug and playful here -- I don't fucking need it. Instead, here's a thought -- why don't you publish stuff that isn't shit? Then we wouldn't have to beat up on it. And everyone would be happy.

How about it, Sandy? Don't publish shit? Does that work for you?

KEvron said...

"At least your paying attention."

damn! i hate it when they catch me paying attention! i have been passively aggressively pw3nd....
could you explain this for me, snady:

"It was all about a journalists opinion piece who left that information and quote out."

your post was not about leslie's omission; it was about a passage that somehow proved a left-wing bias in the msm. it took my subsequent efforts for you to realize that runciman's comments support the offending passage. however, if leslie or his editors had intentionally failed to cite runciman's damning comments, that would speak more toward a right-wing bias, wouldn't you say?

KEvron

KEvron

KEvron said...

"the very piece that's been disemboweled here."

i win the thread, right? say it! say it, cc!

KEvron

CC said...

By the way, Sandy, given that KEvron blew a KEvron-sized hole in your snivelly whining, a top-level blog post correction by you would seem to be in order.

It's what we responsible bloggers do, ya know.

KEvron said...

to quote ¢rÄߊ, "woot!"

KEvron
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KEvron said...

"snady"?! d'oh! of course, i meant "sandy".

btw; nickname or embarrassing hygienical secret? attentive minds want to know. i kid....

KEvron


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KEvron said...

"a top-level blog post correction by you would seem to be in order."

sandy's been known for deleting her own posts, no? i'm pretty sure you've posted on that before, cc.

KEvron

KEvron said...

i'm tenacious.

the second source i had cited had no by-line. this one, however, does: keith leslie.

KEvron

¢rÄßG®äŠŠ said...

Yes, LuLu, you've been more than patient. I'm sorry - I haven't forgotten. I'm a lazy bastard. Tonight, though, I have to work on grade 9 mathematics (everything you've ever wanted to know, but not badly enough to actually ask, about equations that look like or can be rearranged to look like y = mx + b) with my older daughter, who has a test tomorrow.

That could go a little late.

Can I have until Sunday?

Ti-Guy said...

It always ends this way, which is why I don't bother challenging it. "Bias" can only be established after a lengthy and careful examination of someone's work and only has meaning if the bias is related to arguing in bad faith. You can't do that on the strength of a sentence here and a paragraph there.

Anyway, it's not only Sandy's sin of passive-aggression (which really gets up my nose); it's also how willing she is to accept the mindless agreement of her rightwing fans...pseudonymous personae we all recognise as "conservatives" in dire need of mentoring and education in critical thinking.

She doesn't dispel ignorance; she enables it. She creates it.

LuLu said...

Grade 9 math? Blurgh ... I hate math. Sunday's fine.

KEvron said...

the plot thins....

KEvron

¢rÄßG®äŠŠ said...

KEv, that's exactly the sort of tenacity that Sandy should have exhibited before she submitted that post. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt, assuming that she didn't actually know.

Is it just me? If you're going to post on something like that, and attribute it to the same old villain (Teh Left-Liberal-Biased MSM), how the fuck can you not check into it first? It's actually baffling to me.

Maybe a little toooo baffling (narrows eyes)... Oh, wait. That doesn't work here. Never mind.

¢rÄßG®äŠŠ said...

"the plot thins..."

Makes you wonder how Sandy managed to read about this thing without discovering what Runciman had said.

But I won't assume (I'm actually serious here) that she posted it in bad faith. I'll gladly entertain the idea though.

Ti-Guy said...

But I won't assume (I'm actually serious here) that she posted it in bad faith.

I've spent too much time looking at this issue to not assume that of anyone who ever got close to Mike Harris's Ontario government.

KEvron said...

in light of the two versions of the story (not an op/ed, as previously stated) published on two different days, i'll give her the benefit of the doubt, in that she may have confused the two pieces. but she doesn't get a pass on her weak attempt to prove that hackneyed red herring about liberal bias. she squints and filters, and runs for cover when confronted with the facts; there's your unforgivable bias.

KEvron

Crux-of-the-Matter said...

Hahahahaha. You guys are too much. I am a senior citizen guys, a retired person. I will be a great-grandmother in September. You know, the kind of person most people don't pay any attention to. So I get a kick out of this whole process.

I think Red Tory is also retired if I'm not mistaken.

But, I have to tell you that I have every intention of continuing my regulr rants against anti-conservative bias. Mind you, I could write about anti-Liberal bias too -- given what is being written about poor Mr. Dion.

Actually, I am a red tory as well.

Sorry.Have to have my afternoon nap now!

KEvron said...

smells like munchausen's nappy in here, with a hint of papd....

KEvron

Red Tory said...

Semi-retired, yes. But not quite dead just yet.

Ti-Guy said...

Hahahahaha. You guys are too much.

What are you? 12?

¢rÄßG®äŠŠ said...

Sandy, if you're a red Tory, how do you stand Harper? Isn't Dion a better fit?